#139 Samantha Jackson – You’re made to be awesome

Why settle for anything less than excellent? This is exactly what I explore with renowned celebrity health coach Samantha Jackson.

Samantha shares her approach and philosophy towards health and what that actually looks and feels like. Through this she puts forward the very real question as to why we settle for anything less than peak health and vitality.

Samantha also explains the dangers of toxic fat and breaks down how you can either feed or starve it.

The conversation then goes on to how to retain health in the current Coronavirus environment and the pitfalls to avoid.

Samantha is a wonderfully grounded and direct lady who speaks in a non-nonsense common sense manner, which is how she such impressive results with her clients – which include some famous names.

For the listener, you will be given some very clear questions about your own health and steps towards how to be sustainably awesome!

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Bryn 

Hello, and welcome back to WA Real, I’m your host, Bryn Edwards.

 

WA Real is based on the oldest form of learning by listening to the stories and experience of those around us, those around us here in Western Australia. Today we’re going to get into nutrition training and well being with Samantha Jackson, welcome to the show.

 

Samantha Jackson 

Thanks so much for having me, Bryn. I’m so excited to be here.

 

Samantha Jackson 

This is fun.

 

Bryn 

Why are you so excited to be here?

 

Samantha Jackson 

I love this kind of stuff, I think you know that the more conversations we can have about different things, and it’s all an education process, we all educate each other and love each other. And I actually find that really exciting.

 

Bryn 

Yeah, it is. It is. I mean, I learned expand through all these conversations inside of my listeners. And so yeah, thank you very much for for coming on now. And first thing I want to ask you because you’re originally a 10 pound palm I lived in South Australia and then came to Wi Fi. And normally in the podcast I would explain ask you about what Australia, Western Australia missed a year and then the other but being slightly more relevant to where we are now is if you’re going to have to chunk it down during coronavirus in any place in the world, why haven’t we picked it?

 

Samantha Jackson 

Ah, I know like we are absolutely in probably one of the best places because there’s so much outdoor open space here. So if we do have to go into martial law, lockdown, I actually don’t think of going outside just for a walk in the sunshine or in the park or the beach, obviously with some responsible social distancing in place, but I think that’s not going to be that difficult to achieve as long as no one really takes the biscuit on it. I really don’t get to achieve I think it’s going to be fabulous. So yeah, bring on the lockdown. I’m looking forward to him.

 

Bryn 

Hmm It’s amazing though because now I live just south of the river and Picton and like so I go down to the beach. It’s been rooting for Young’s it’s amazing how many people are out and about at the moment. And it’s amazing and annoying because it’s like all just scatter out. And I think I’m gonna get a bit dark if the beaches get close. So no one dies, please. And

 

Samantha Jackson 

hide yourself, everyone.

 

Bryn 

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go enjoy responsibly with a bit of distance. So you are a health coach, and you do a lot of keynote speaking on this.

 

Bryn 

Yes. What was it about

 

Bryn 

health coaching that drew you in because you had quite a, you know, serious corporate career beforehand? What is it about health coaching that drew you in and what’s the drive that you’re trying to get across here?

 

Samantha Jackson 

What I’m trying to get across is that health is just not one aspect,

 

Samantha Jackson 

okay? So there’s a lot of people who just

 

Samantha Jackson 

specialise in one area. So either nutrition or fitness, or just that the whole mindset of being healthy, they’ll just go and go, this is this is that one thing that’s going to keep us healthy. My view is that if we don’t have everything synergistically in alignment, there’s always going to be gaps. And we’re going to have that that falling down. So that’s why I look at getting the nutrition, right, getting your physical activity, right, getting your head in the game in the right way. And then that has another ripple effect on to your determination, your grit, your resilience, your relationships, your work, you know, everything. I hear so many stories back from people saying like, I’ve got one guy who’s in Michigan, who is a musician at the moment, and he says, you know, I’m writing better songs now, because I’m calmer and more focused and people are noticing. So just even that sort of feedback. I just, yes, I’m on the right track here. You

 

Bryn 

know, yeah, it just makes so much sense, doesn’t it? What do you think?

 

Samantha Jackson 

And then I don’t want to take anything away from from pts or anything like that I would, I don’t want to be disrespectful. So don’t don’t take it this way. But they will take a person and go Yes, I can get your feet or I can get you strong. But if they’re not in yet what they’re eating and what they’re doing and how they thinking at the same time, then that fitness or strength actually isn’t going to serve them as well as what it could some

 

Samantha Jackson 

everything very holistically and synergistically.

 

Bryn 

And it was interesting thinking about this conversation beforehand, it had me thinking about your actual focus on health, whereas, you know, we sort of have this would be interesting for you to comment on this. We have this sort of association of doctors equal health, but after we get the doctors when things are wrong, then what does that you know, in essence, what do they do? Well, then they’ll do one of two things the prescribing drugs or surgery equation. That’s essentially what they’ll do. They’ll send you drugs or operations, you know, and that’s when things are wrong. But is it the ancient Roman or Greeks who they, they paid was it they, they didn’t pay their doctors when they, when they’re real. And when they Well, they paid the doctors or something that is the other way around.

 

Samantha Jackson 

I think that when they were well, they didn’t pay them. So yeah, I think that was the case. Yeah, I often. Look, I love doctors and I work closely with a lot of them because I have to work with people who have medical conditions. So I like to work with a doctor as well as them so because I think the more hands that can uplift a person and take them on that journey and in the right direction. At the same time, the better so I do what doctors and specialists and but I do also find that a lot of doctors rather than practising healthcare practice ck so We don’t walk into the doctor and go, Hey, everything’s great. Here’s $70 do it so and what I what I really want to do is keep people in that optimum health space, so that it’s a prevention or even just reducing the risk of chronic disease, or reduce the risk of infections being so severe or just reduce the risk of you getting everything going around. And you’re just like, Why Why wouldn’t we reduce our risk of that? It doesn’t make any sense to me.

 

Bryn 

I’m 100%, you know, like that. You wouldn’t go and see the doctor and say, I’m feeling awesome. Or the doctors say, you know, I’m feeling good, but I want to feel excellent. How can you help me?

 

Samantha Jackson 

We don’t and then we generally, as a population, go into the doctor and we say, but I’ve got type two diabetes or high cholesterol, high blood pressure or high blood sugar, whatever it is, can you give me something to make it go away? So because I want to know My previous former lifestyle, I want to keep doing that. So I want you to give me something to mask those symptoms. And then if that causes side effects, I want you to give me a drug to mask that as well. So and the doctors do because they’ve got 10 minutes per patient. So they actually don’t have the time. Probably medicine, which was the reason why they got into that that profession to start with, because they actually gave a damn about people. But then time or capacity to operate like that, and also the population don’t want them to in a lot of cases, either. We don’t go to our doctor and say, can you help me with nutrition and exercise so that this is type two diabetes diagnosis that I have, can potentially be reversed? Can you help? Say, and I find that so sad, really sad. So I wave a massive flag on that going, Hey, you know that we don’t have to accept that there are things we can do. Mm

 

Bryn 

hmm. And also, when you do have these like epiphany that like you’ve gone to the doctor because you’ve had an accident or you’ve had to Do BTS or you realise, you know, you’ve got real with yourself and said that fat or something like that and you want to do something, then it can be a whole bloody labyrinth of what does healthy look like, and what do I have to do to be healthy and that look and feel and, you know, so you know, because, you know, the internet’s bombarded with stuff, you know, do this get rid, do this. Go do that. So yeah, I find it interesting that you bring all of them together.

 

Samantha Jackson 

Yes. And so many. If you look at mainstream media, health equals skinny, and it’s not the case and we’ve got this glorification of these skinny little bodies. And and it’s Yeah, there’s no way that that that is healthy for most people or even achievable or maintainable. And then nor should it be because you’ve got that the toxic fat which I always bring on about which actually sits behind your abdominal wall, which you can be as skinny as a rake and still have a truckload of that sitting in there which puts you at high risk of cancer type two diabetes, cardiovascular disease, stroke, Alzheimer’s, you know, it’s it’s nasty nasty stuff and you know, you can have a bucket load of it and still be stick thin. So you’ll see any so what,

 

Bryn 

who comes to you for help?

 

Samantha Jackson 

A lot of people who have tried everything and failed and decided that diets don’t work for them anymore. I’m usually in the little glass box that says in case of emergency break glass that says, because you should be the first place but and that’s because I don’t mind actually. I don’t mind because I think then people have to have that determination of nothing else has worked. You are my last resort. Let’s just do this. And at that point, people are compliant because I’d actually say to them things that they don’t want to hear. And they need to hear. And if I

 

Bryn 

ask you about

 

Samantha Jackson 

ready, they won’t do it. Mm hmm.

 

Bryn 

Yeah. Cuz I guess if, if you’re the last, you know, last dance or, you know, the okay corral or something like that, then it must be good because then the customers and clients, they’re focused and do the thing because, you know, the bridges burn fire under their ass, and they’ve got to do something. Otherwise, it could be curtains.

 

Samantha Jackson 

That’s right. Yeah. And there’s so many people say, Look, you’re rich and I’ve, I have done every single diet under the sun. And all I do is gain weight, and I’ve got no energy and I don’t sleep well and I snore. And I’m on four different medications and I don’t want to live like this anymore. I’m fed up. You’re my last resort really helped me. So I have weekly, absolutely weekly brilliant.

 

 

Question that pops up for me is,

 

Bryn 

what is it about the human condition that means that we have to get that far down the pit before we get real with ourselves?

 

Samantha Jackson 

It’s, I know, I’ve got a really technical term for it. It’s very clinical. It’s called the oh shit moment. So they’re, so they’re plodding along. They’re Okay, they’re not sick, in inverted commas. So they’re not necessarily well, but because we’ve got this society that believes that mediocre healthy is normal. So it’s okay to feel tired when you wake up in the morning and it’s okay to be desperate for a coffee or chocolate, you know, and if you don’t have it, you’re going to stab someone in the face at three o’clock in the afternoon. It’s okay to have that little bit of a wobble around your middle. It’s okay to be on some medication, you know, that we’ve got a society that believes all of these things are actually okay. So because of that, that level of mediocrity when we win, because we’ve had that in our bodies for so long, at a certain point, there’s a tick, where we go okay, now in terms of

 

Bryn 

your very fine knife edge of mediocracy.

 

 

Yeah, it could be right or

 

Samantha Jackson 

it’s soon as you tip over into symptoms. That’s when people have you know, some people call it a light bulb, I call it the Oh, shit moment. And yeah, they go, Oh, you know, I’ve got to do something here. But then what invariably happens is they go to the doctor and say, give me drugs. But make this go away.

 

Bryn 

Yeah, I don’t want to do the work. I want to I want to do something to do the work for me.

 

Samantha Jackson 

That’s right. And so they’ll never get their energy back. They’ll never get did. They still won’t sleep very well. They will wake up feeling like they have actually been to bed. And why would you choose that? just doesn’t make any sense when you when you understand how spectacularly awesome The human body is. Designed to feel Why do we accept when it doesn’t?

 

Samantha Jackson 

Say I’m getting on my soapbox green? No, no, that’s

 

Bryn 

all right. This is the space to do it. And I think that takes into into one of our big

 

Samantha Jackson 

Don’t let me read it’s not

 

Bryn 

Oh, no, that’s what it’s about. It’s now called wi watered down. And, but it’s interesting because you tip into something which is, you know, it’s one of our core limiting beliefs, I am not enough. So therefore, if I am not enough, if I am not worthy, then I will accept mediocracy. So in order to accept that things could be better. That means that I could be better and things could be good and I can allow that into my life as a Christian self sabotage it or something like that.

 

Samantha Jackson 

Definitely, definitely. And we actually shun to a certain point, we shun people who are positive and vibrant and there’s nothing wrong with them. So it’s those it’s almost celebrated to have depression or anxiety or physical problems. You know, it’s people that actually lead with that. So, you know, how are you today all my anxiety is playing up or my this is, you know, me gout. You know, it’s almost a badge of honour. And so, and when I say to someone, I’m feeling fabulous today, I’m having a spectacular day because I am alive. And be you know, I feel damn awesome. It’s like, what what do we know?

 

Bryn 

Exactly. Is there a bit much?

 

Samantha Jackson 

Yeah, yeah. That’s I don’t really quite get away from celebrating the

 

Samantha Jackson 

fact that we’re all in

 

Bryn 

Yeah, this lowest common denominator that we’re happy as opposed to saying it’s okay to go for the highest common denominator is going for it.

 

Samantha Jackson 

Yeah, cuz and once you’ve been there, it’s addictive. It’s almost like your own little you know drunk stash because you know, getting up in the morning and feeling alive and ready to start the day and having a clear head all day and feeling energetic for days. That’s that’s pretty addictive. And then once you break there and then feel, you know, a bit crappy again, you just go, Oh, this is gross, but that’s that’s some people’s norm. That’s a lot of people’s norm. So yeah, just want to get yourself back into that position of optimal health again, huh? Yeah, that’s fine. You

 

Bryn 

Love it. Love it. So I understand that you’ve had some interesting clients as well have your profile in note.

 

Samantha Jackson 

I certainly have. Yes, still do still do.

 

Bryn 

So do Can you drop any names?

 

Samantha Jackson 

I can’t. Well, I still talk to Mel Gibson every single day. So we’re working on getting some getting in really mostly at the moment. So yeah, that’s that’s good fun. Really. Yay.

 

Samantha Jackson 

Good guy that one really good guy.

 

Bryn 

So um, we talked about toxic fat earlier on. And I get the impression that’s like a real central part of focus there. And can you tell me more about central bed centre and top toxic fat and your overall general sort of principles and philosophy behind what you do?

 

Samantha Jackson 

Sure. So the the the toxic fat or as it’s technically known as visceral adipose tissue, or VA t. So, it is definitely an area of passion for me, mainly because not many people know about it, and yet it is a critical factor in determining our health. So where that sits, so you’ve got subcutaneous fat, which is between your skin and your muscle. So that’s it, I refer to that as bubble wrap. So it’s just stuff it’s under your skin and keeps you muscles protected. So that’s actually A non pathogenic fat, it’s it’s fairly harmless, although if you have too much of it, it’s going to put a lot of pressure on your heart and you know, cardiovascular system blood pressure, that kind of thing. So you should just have that moderate amount of subcutaneous fat, but you’ve also got that visceral adipose, which is it sits behind your abdominal wall, so you know what your six pack is on your tummy because we’re all rocking a good six pack, right? And so

 

 

socket in Britain.

 

Samantha Jackson 

So it’s behind there. So it’s in that cavity where your organs sit, and the fact that sits in there, it’s metabolically active. It’s hormone secretion. It is toxic, it’s it’s carcinogenic, and it’s closely linked with about 13 different types of cancer. So pancreatic cancer, liver cancer, cancer, breast cancer, it’s really closely linked with those. It’s linked with cardiovascular disease, stroke, outsiders, respiratory conditions there are it’s linked with so much because It’s just sitting in your abdominal cavity around your vital organs and just leaching out nasty stuff.

 

Bryn 

So that the murky yellow is stuff you see on the advert when the guy’s rich enough

 

Samantha Jackson 

to add the stuff that’s

 

Bryn 

Yeah,

 

Samantha Jackson 

yeah, yeah. But there’s three things. So this this fat is really, really responsive to three substances,

 

Samantha Jackson 

sugar,

 

Samantha Jackson 

saturated fat and alcohol.

 

 

Right.

 

Samantha Jackson 

So when people go on a diet, yeah, they will generally lose subcutaneous fat. And they’ll they’ll generally go into some sort of starvation mode because they’re just restricting the calories. But when we also put the body into what’s called homeostasis, and then we’re reducing that sugar, we’re getting rid of saturated fat, and we’re also just taking the alcohol out of it as well. That’s when that toxic belly fat the bat is also being stabbed. So not only are you improving your health and your body composition, but you’re lowering your risks of some really awful diseases that you don’t want swimming in line.

 

Bryn 

When you starve It doesn’t mean it dies and goes away. I mean, it reduces, right. So thanks. Reducing, reducing sugar, saturated fat and alcohol.

 

Samantha Jackson 

Yeah, it’s really simple three things, that’s all we need to do is to get rid of that fat so you can either feed it or stop it. And and everyone has some organisation says that 500 grammes or more of that fat puts you at high risk. Now a lot of people wouldn’t know that they’ve got 500 grammes or more sitting there and we know that if it’s 500 grammes or over, then it’s taking up over a metre of surface area and there’s a really good chance that that’s just about to get up to a liver in your heart and you Wouldn’t want anything toxic touching either of those. So

 

Bryn 

how can you measure it? So how would you know whether 500 was

 

Samantha Jackson 

in all my my nerdy qualifications? I’m also a dexa radiologist. So I guess

 

Samantha Jackson 

there is a dual energy X ray absorbing symmetry. So it’s course

 

 

doesn’t everyone know

 

Samantha Jackson 

that? It’s a full body X ray essentially. And it’s got an accuracy of about point one of a gramme and it measures your, you know, density, your fat mass and distribution and also your lean mass and distribution. So I can tell you how many grammes of muscle are in your left arm, it’s that level of detail. So it’s, it’s really it’s a specialised test, but they’re readily available. There’s a few people in person that can do them and a few people, probably handful that can read them and analyse the results of that just happened to be one of those. And so that X ray will also very accurately tell you how many grammes of visceral adipose tissue you have. And also what the surface area that was taking up. Right?

 

 

Is that expensive?

 

Samantha Jackson 

It’s $90 it’s not expensive. Yes. So and I actually banged on about these years with doctors going, why are you sending people for an annual dexa scan because we can learn so much about a person’s health by having one of those really good. So diagnostic. So yeah, why why we don’t send people for the end. It’s very low radiation as well. So it’s the similar amount of radiation as a flight from Perth to Sydney, which we would all just do without thinking. I would almost as a as a technician, though, I would always say like I always asked ladies if there’s any chance if she’s pregnant, because if there is, we don’t do it. So yeah, cuz they’re known for pregnant ladies. But yeah, it’s um, it’s quite available. There’s a few places in Perth that do them and if you want to get one send me the results and I’ll go through it with you that that’s easy.

 

 

Awesome. So

 

Bryn 

that’s the top the toxic fat and how and what are the sort of like said the key principles to your approach to philosophy given the fact you’ve got this nutrition training and well being and they all come in together at once.

 

Samantha Jackson 

I want to make people feel my philosophy is to make people feel fabulous.

 

 

Yeah. So

 

Samantha Jackson 

that’s that is my driving motive. My my mantra is to change the health of the world one person at a time, then that I, you know, that’s, that’s why I get up in the morning is to just, if I can make one person per day, feel awesome, and be healthy and lower their disease risks, I can go to bed at night and fist bump myself and go, did it.

 

Bryn 

You know, when somebody when somebody presents and comes to you, and like, what sort of things that you’re you’re looking at across Because you know, you must be speaking to them and getting to feel what they do. What are some of the things that we’re looking at across there?

 

Samantha Jackson 

First of all, is what’s their lifestyle? So what am I going to have to ask them to give up? So are they one guy that I’ve worked with, he was drinking four to five cans of Coca Cola per day. And he, when we did a dexa scan on him, he had the bone mineral density of a 90 year old, because he had been drinking all that Coca Cola for 3030 odd years and the acid in there have actually started to leech the calcium out of his bones. So he flew, that sort of thing. Like what what little habits do you have in the background that you think are harmless that I need to, to whip into shape with you and how do we do that? What’s your resilience like? And also because I’ve done over 4000 dexa scans on people I can, I can usually get a really good visual for waiting for the condition. He is. So I’m also because I will only take on a new client after I’ve met them over zoom if they’re International, or you know, because I just want to have a look at where they sit. So I want to have a look at what their muscle structure is like what I’ve got to work with is, what were their body fat percentage would be estimated. And I also want to get some snapshots of Well, what do you eat in the day? They taught me a typical day, how fit they knew, what exercise equipment do you have? What’s your general level of activity? What do you do for work? What’s your family situation like? Because I need all of that into consideration to be able to work with them, because if it doesn’t, if this isn’t a long term sustainable exercise for them, I have failed.

 

Bryn 

Yeah. And they’ve wasted their time money.

 

Samantha Jackson 

Correct. So I need to be able to create something that they can do with their family and a lot of cases that can really take them forward and that they can just live by ever in a day. And and it’s so it’s it’s not an diet, and it’s a bit cringy to go. It’s not a diet. It’s a lifestyle because it’s so cliche, but it’s Yeah, it’s I like to educate rather than just go Okay, so you do this, this, this is this, I have sessions with them once a week going, this is why we’re doing it. This is why I’m getting you to exercise one day weights and one day cardio plus go for a walk, this is why I want you to understand what I know. So you can take those principles and carry them forward. And then even you know, help other people. So if someone says, Well, why are you doing that? If you can then pass that information on to them, you know, that actually might make the difference and have a ripple effect outwards as well. So yeah, if we can just if we can all help each other. That would be a beautiful thing. Wouldn’t it

 

Bryn 

be awesome? Yeah. It’s interesting that you said there about you know how they can take that back into their family. It’s an interesting one where you find one person within a within a relationship. wants to go and do this, you know, be healthy and the other ones like, what’s going on? How do you manage that?

 

Samantha Jackson 

And we both work on them together. So

 

Samantha Jackson 

and the thing is, if so let’s, let’s say if you wanted to get healthy, but your partner didn’t want you to write or wasn’t interested in joining you. So then I become your support mechanism. So, like, I’ll support you through, I’ll carry you through you can you can text me at midnight if you need to, if you’re up, encasing the halls, find me at midnight, I’ll talk you through, right let’s, let’s just do this. I’m your support network. What then happens is the partner comes around, invariably within the first three weeks, and especially when those changes start to become really apparent in you. It’s the only I’ll have what she’s having. That’s right, and and they can also see that they’re eating normal food from the supermarket. There’s no superfoods or, you know, it doesn’t have to be carefully tended by hippies in the Himalayan mountains, and then important No, no food. If you can’t get it from your supermarket, we don’t eat it. So they’re not doing that there’s no secret formula or anything like that. They’re just changing their habits and their health is taking a dramatic shift. And and it’s contagious. They want it as well, because they’ll also find that their partner is calmer, happier, and a lot more easygoing, they’re a lot more active, you know, playing with the kids more and all that kind of stuff. So it has that ripple effect of improving everything. So yeah, they give me a I haven’t had anyone who hasn’t come around yet.

 

Bryn 

Mm hmm. And so as we move into this new world, new environment have been more at home, and what have you some of the concerns that you have, as you look out across it, bearing in mind, you would have had concerns as the previous landscape but now We moved to a different landscape given the fact that you know there’s anxiety and stuff we’re at home or is a closed social distancing outside etc etc you know who knows you know could end up like the UK where your loved one walk outside today and and you know people are buying you know as a pastor and rice in the house and stuff like that so you don’t need to go any further I think what are some of the major concerns that you see coming up from a health perspective

 

Samantha Jackson 

firstly the the isolation if we’re not talking to people and still maintaining those relationships that is a problem. And and I did a video recently about please get get on FaceTime or zoom or Skype or whatever calling video platform that you can and still hang out with your besties and exercise together over FaceTime or watch Netflix together with you know, have a cup of tea and you know Have you your bestie in front of you face to face, you still need to be able to see someone else smiling at you. So, please, please, please do that. From a physical health perspective. I know that this has been spoken about quite a few times with people when they when they’re working at home and it’s a foreign to work from home. The fridge is right around the corner.

 

 

Yeah.

 

Samantha Jackson 

One supervising them. So we all turn into the three year old at a birthday party, you know, show. So we’ve just got a nation of Cookie Monster just going on with everything. And because it’s your board at your desk, you’re in your home environment, no one’s looking at you. You don’t have to take designated breaks or anything like that. So you’re going to go to the fridge and you know, bend the elbow a little bit with that. So that’s that is one issue. That mindless snacking is going to be on the rise I believe. The other thing that it’s a really mighty fine excuse for people not to exercise To go out Jim shark today Okay, I’ll watch Netflix. So that’s an i i think that’s absolutely terrible. So I’ve actually started doing some free exercise videos from my lounge room, I’m beaming them out from my lounge room to go, Hey, if I’m doing this in my lounge room, you can do it in yours too. And I live in a tiny cottage in Guilford. So you know, if I’ve got two minutes of space and you’ve got about what I’ve got do this with me. And they just tend unit six exercise mini workouts three times a week just to go guys get moving like this isn’t the time to worry about getting ripped, or you know, doing massive weight loss, things, anything like that. please, for the love of all things good, stay moving. So I’m beaming that out at the moment but there’s there’s so much mean in the adverts. You can get up and do some squats or you can do some lunges while you brush your teeth. You know that there’s Get creative go go wild and crazy and have some fun with it. And see how many different ways you can work some movement into your day, going into office before you know as long as you’re safe to do so, go down to office work and get a sit stand desk and implement that. So you can have a bit of time stretching your legs out and you know, maybe do some Leg Raises or whatever while you’re standing talking to someone on the podcast. So, you know, it’s there’s so much you can do to stay just that little bit active. We don’t need to alter into couch potatoes and snack machines. We don’t need to do that.

 

Bryn 

Do you think that as I mentioned earlier on, more people seem to be going out for a walk. I mean, granted the weather’s nice moment. And do you think this could be a catalyst for more conscious health? focus in people because because we have so taken away,

 

Samantha Jackson 

yes. And and also the potential for health is being taken away as well. So even if because they are hailing cobit 19 as a mild disease for most people wants to get it and be impacted by it. And so the better your general health is that the more of a fighting chance you’ve got of just getting a, you know, a little bit of a tickly cough and that’s it move on. So, I think a lot of people are going on, you know, holy crap, I need to take care of myself, because this, this virus wave is coming, which I think is actually a really good thing to give people a wake up call. But

 

Bryn 

massive collective oshit moment

 

Samantha Jackson 

is heavily to it.

 

Samantha Jackson 

But yeah, and and we’ve noticed, because we have a walk by the river every morning, and obviously being down in Guilford, we’re really lucky to have a beautiful spot, and we can go and walk. And we’ve noticed that it’s suddenly peak hour down there. We like everyone’s out walking. Fabulous. So we spend our entire morning saying good morning to people as they’re walking past. And I think it’s really good that people are doing something while they can before Because if we get sort of locked in our homes like they are in Spain and Italy, and as China was, then it’s indoor exercise only. So while we can and while we can observe some social distancing, get out and do it that would be fabulous. So I hope this is a wave of people looking for ways to keep themselves healthy and protected.

 

Bryn 

Hmm. I suppose every Yang has a Yang

 

 

is probably because

 

Bryn 

I don’t know whether it’s me but I noticed that there seems to be hearing why there seems to be a whole lot of people who do zero size and then there’s a lot of people who do ridiculous amounts of exercise. And, and I for one, ran back December time started to have a bit of a general fatigue on and I started to look at my sleeping and things like that and there were other things going on in my life but I just it just got to a point where I had To let go of exercise, because it just genuinely wasn’t serving me at that point. And, you know, the first couple of weeks were a nightmare. I should be going, I should be going and doing this and this and that. But within myself, I knew it just wasn’t going to help. And I just had to let it go, I had to sleep in a bit more, I had to just go for a walk instead of, you know, kind of movement class or smashing case out swimming or something like that. And one of the things I found that was interesting, and I think, when I started to speak up about this with a few, particularly male friends, and who noticed or, you know, you come down to the beach, but you’re not, you know, coming for a square, and you’re going for a walk and then a dip and stuff like that. And I started to say, Well, a lot of my exercise was starting to be driven out of anxiety, you know, I’ve got to maintain, I’ve got to be doing the thing. I’ve got to be getting stronger. You know, tu tu, tu tu tu and yeah, we’re provided by So, like I said earlier on so many images of grip lean, doing the thing getting it done and this on the other end it was bloody liberating to let it go and when I spoke up about it is amazing the amount of other males probably summarise to me 4045 who suddenly went you know, I go through this you know, end of the day of work and I’m thinking or we’re going to the gym because it’s arm day or it’s leg day and work behind me if I miss it and stuff like that. So to me this this current situation, yes, it probably perkin a few people up out and have a walk. But then a lot of other people chill in the mouth to just do a walk as opposed to be in a gym doing the thing and not really connecting with a body.

 

Samantha Jackson 

And and a lot of the people who, who are, you know, the muscle builders down at the gym, a lot of those are overtraining and they’re in some ways under nourishing themselves because they want them ripped look. So and again, what what you look like doesn’t always isn’t always the most accurate indicator of your general health.

 

Samantha Jackson 

So we were trying

 

Samantha Jackson 

to maintain a certain look or certain physique,

 

Bryn 

so for functionality and that’s right, and kinesthetic feel.

 

Samantha Jackson 

Yeah, exactly. So it’s, it’s not always the best thing you know, and, and we’ve male and I’ve spoken quite openly and so is he that he was exercising for a couple of hours per day. And I just went dude, 45 minutes, knock it on the head there and, and I got him actually eating more and working out less but more effectively. And that was really foreign to him and, and I think if I had $1 for every time he said, Are you sure? I would? Yeah. It was it was really foreign and it is to a lot of people. When I say to them, I want you to eat five times a day, and I want you to carbohydrates, you know, in the world where everyone thinks carbs are the devil be a beer rebel and eat them anyway, because they’re really necessary for your energy. So I want you to eat carbohydrates and I want you to exercise effectively, but not, you know, don’t overtrain because that that’s putting you into a state of fatigue and that doesn’t serve anyone. And so it’s really interesting people’s perspective that I need to eat less and exercise more to maintain fizzy

 

Bryn  

does does seems counterintuitive.

 

Samantha Jackson 

Because the world sort of full of naked people. And that’s, that’s not fun, either.

 

Bryn 

No food, then have depleted immune systems and all sorts of stuff and mental fragility. And there you go.

 

Samantha Jackson 

Exhibit A.

 

Bryn 

There you go. And as we as we go forward into this more sort of in the home environment, you still open for business, or you just look to your clients.

 

Samantha Jackson 

Now 100% open for business and I’ve just taken on a couple people In America just yesterday, so yeah, 100% open for business, whatever I can do for him to help people is the door is completely open. The only thing I’m not doing is face to face meetings, which I didn’t actually do a lot of those anyway, because I work nationally a lot of my work is done on other platforms like zoom or Skype or FaceTime. So they’re the three big ones I would use anyway. So yeah, most of my work is done over those and then even in curse with most people, I will still meet them electronically because I have to travel but apart from right now, usually I have to travel quite a bit. And and I need to maintain those commitments of face to face meeting with people. So even in Perth, I’ll do that electronically so I can, if I’m in Los Angeles, I can still do that meeting on Perth time. So nobody misses out. I don’t need to dilute what I do.

 

Bryn 

Awesome, awesome. So coming out of your experience and expertise in the Come unto yourself. And as the world is changing what’s coming up for you currently and what are you learning about yourself from this situation?

 

Samantha Jackson 

Probably a little more patience. Yeah, just with them. Because the economy at the moment is is pretty wrapped up. So I’m learning a bit of patience because I had probably, yeah, 10 people lined up and they all just went Hang on, I’m going to lose my job. I’m like, yep, okay, cool. So yeah, that’s, that’s definitely something I’ve learned is to scale. Okay, you know, what, if I can help you in any way just let’s do that for free anyway, so you know, we’ll do that. So yeah, definitely a patience thing for me, but also looking at different ways of doing business as well. So because the speaking gigs if they’re, they’re not going on at the moment. Yeah, it’s so ways of still getting myself out there and doing the media so I can’t go to Sydney to do because I’ve got regular geeks with Sunrise, I can’t do that at the moment. So that that kind of stuff is off the tables. And that’s usually where I would generate next business from. So I’m going to be more creative in, in what I do, but I also look at it and go, well, is this the time to actually generate business or is is the time to give and invited is the time to give, which is why I’m doing a lot sort of just on my Facebook page at the moment. Just getting exercise videos and everything like that out there. Just, you know, let’s just help people. We’ll all pull together and help people I think this is more time we’re giving is more important than than making money off people in really crappy situations.

 

Bryn 

Hmm, that’s beautiful. Because, yeah, and there’s more and more of that happening. You know, I, myself, learned stuff from the podcast, and I feel obliged to just push it back out there for people to think about consider bringing on board themselves.

 

Samantha Jackson 

Oh, that’s excellent. Again, I think everyone should really take a look at Well, what can I give right now? Whether it’s a skill or whether it’s you know, time You know what, what do I have that I can give right now? I think we’ve, I think if we’re in a position to do so then we have a moral responsibility to fulfil that.

 

Bryn 

Hmm, love it. And what are some of the things that you’re seeing that people are doing? You hope sticks?

 

Samantha Jackson 

Definitely looking after each other definitely so that is something that you know, just that Ben together have and I’ve seen so many Facebook groups are going okay, who needs toilet roll? Who needs you know, I’ve got nappies, I’ve got wipes I’ve got this and I can leave it outside Come and get it. So that to me, I just you know, I that brings tears to my eyes, that kind of things. I just go Yes, go humanity that is fabulous. You know, you’re helping strangers out which is

 

Samantha Jackson 

unheard of pretty much nowadays.

 

Samantha Jackson 

So that is Brilliant, also, people going okay, so I’ve got, I’ve got all this fresh food, one on not letting it go to waste and I’ll make something with it and freeze it, rather than make this fresh food go to waste. So I think we’re also being a lot more cautious with our resources, which is about bloody time, you know that we were a lot more conscious of the waste that we create in our day to day lives because things aren’t as disposable nowadays, or, or renewables. So I think that is absolutely brilliant that we’re all being so much more conscious over what we buy, how we spend and then how we utilise and then even looking at Well, you know, can I save water? Can I you know, should we be turning lights off because the electricity like they’re on skeleton staff, I would assume so. How can we how can we really just get back to basics and still have a good life but a basic one. So yeah, I really hope that sticks really, really hope

 

Bryn 

I love that. What was some of the things that you’re doing to keep yourself grounded, obviously did a bit of exercise and eating well. It’s,

 

Samantha Jackson 

it’s pretty much it’s pretty much business as usual for us because we we work online. The The internet is a little interesting at the moment. That’s because I think, you know, there’s a huge demand for Internet with everyone working at home. So that’s been a little bit of a challenge.

 

Samantha Jackson 

But it’s out of our control. So what can we do?

 

Samantha Jackson 

We just do the best we can with what we have. And nothing else is really changed. I mean, we were really conscious anyway. And I think we were looking more at you know, what can we grow with? we’ve we’ve discussed getting rid of ancient you know, Ken Yeah, couldn’t could we actually do it. I do not have any gardening skills whatsoever, but I’m married to a man who has some so we’re gonna go. Could we do that? Even just like in little, little parts? Because we don’t have a great deal of space? So could we put some stuff in little parts? And yeah, couldn’t could we do that? So that’s that’s definitely something that we’re looking at for a bit of a future, you know, future event for our for ourselves. Yeah.

 

Bryn 

Hmm. And the last question I asked all my guests is if you could take one little nugget of information, like Samantha’s nugget and just upload it into the collective consciousness everybody just gets what would that be right now?

 

Samantha Jackson 

That would believe to be the most spectacular person that you could possibly be physically, mentally, spiritually, emotionally.

 

Samantha Jackson 

Just if you could, if you can be your best, why aren’t you? That’s Yeah. That’s love it.

 

Samantha Jackson 

It’s my,

 

Samantha Jackson 

I’d like to say thank you.

 

Bryn 

It’s been absolutely awesome talking to you today, Samantha. And, you know, and it’s been fantastic to not just talk about the health aspect, but also, you know, the underlying mindsets that go on and, and and listen to what what you see in reality in terms of some of the reasons why we’re not our best and why we shouldn’t be invested, you know, embracing that we can. And it’s just awesome. Is it like a an amazing breath of fresh air?

 

Samantha Jackson 

Thank you.

 

 

Yeah.

 

Samantha Jackson 

Yeah, it absolutely shouldn’t be this

 

 

isn’t it?

 

Bryn 

Should this should just be modus operandi?

 

Samantha Jackson 

That’s right. This should be who we are. The human body was designed to be awesome. And let’s make

 

 

it that way. Love it. Love it. So people want to find you Where can they come?

 

Samantha Jackson 

They can go to you I have a website, which is Samantha Jackson dot coach. Yep. And email is talk to me with a number two x Amanda Jackson coach. And then on socials, both Facebook and Instagram. It’s at Samantha Jackson dot coach set up consistent variations. Yeah. Yeah.

 

Bryn 

So long as you follow Samantha Jackson, you’ll find,

 

Samantha Jackson 

you know, just just Google, just google me that, you know, you can get through there as well. But yeah, love to love to have a chat and help people out. That’s what we do.

 

Bryn 

That’s absolutely awesome. Thank you so much for your time today.

 

Samantha Jackson 

Thank you. It’s been a pleasure to be lovely talking with you.

 

Bryn 

And they all right. Thank you very much.

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