#140 Andrea Ross – Is this current chaos a gift?

This week a have a far ranging and timely conversation with Opera singer, tantra, yoga and meditation teacher Andrea Ross.

In this conversation Andrea begins by talking about the full journey of her training as a singer that also spans time away from singing to include yoga, meditation, tantra and intuitive healing – this is important as it sets the context for the rest of the conversation which provides a much wider and expansive view of the current Corona virus situation.

We go on to discuss and explore the potential positive impacts of the Corona virus on our society, why on an level the disruption is very needed to restructure society and the need to surrender to the ensuing chaos (divine feminine) in order to move through it; as well as many other fascinating viewpoints.

One thing is for sure, if you’d listen to the contents of this conversation before 2020 you may well have easily overlooked it and dismissed it, but now it all seems to make sense.

And finally – start choosing love over logic x

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Bryn 

Hi, this is Bryn I,

 

Andrea Ross 

and this is Andrea,

 

Bryn 

Andrea Ross. We just had an amazing conversation, one that goes all over the place into the world of spirituality processing What’s going on? And I think if we’d had this conversation six weeks ago, people I think would disappear down the rabbit hole but it’s very much a timely. Why in your words do you think someone should stay in and listen to the whole conversation?

 

Andrea Ross 

This conversation is amazing. We cover everything from yoga, meditation, Tantra, what you can do at the moment to say centred grounded practical, isn’t it? Yes, there is, yes and awaken and how we can all rise together and create a new world very much needed at this time.

 

Bryn 

And on top of that, Andrea is a lovely, lovely lady. So enjoy Andrea. Go and stay in and listen to all of it.

 

Bryn 

Hello, and welcome back to WA Real. I’m your host Bryn Edwards. What are the strategies to deal with uncertain times that we’re in currently. And so I thought I’d dive into that with today’s guest, Andrea Ross. Andrea, welcome to the show.

 

Andrea Ross 

Thanks, Bryn. Thanks so much for having me.

 

Bryn 

Now, as you can hear in the background, here we are at the beach, we are appropriately socially distance. The outdoors, and I don’t take this lightly. But because this is probably going to be my last in person interview for a little while, which actually weighs heavily on me. Because there is something about interacting with people on a one to one basis, which is so we over communicate so many different levels. And for me, it’s very nourishing, you know, 40 discussions. It’s very nourishing, it’s very healing. And it’s weighed heavily on me that I might not be doing this and so I’m actually savouring this right now. I’m looking forward to the zoom chats that I’m going to launch soon. But yes, anyway enough for me.

 

 

Yeah, no, but I feel exactly the same, you know, with the, you know, my yoga classes have gone to live streaming. So last last week when I had my last few students, it was really savouring that moment and savouring the in person connection that you just you know, as hard as we try online, you just don’t get

 

Bryn 

I know, it’s like, the best analogy I can give is. So when you listen to mp3, there’s compressor, you only hear the sound that you need to hear you don’t get all the depth for the sound like you were digging into a CD or tape or vinyl. and international line is like that. It’s sort of the thinnest veneer is all the depth that you don’t necessarily know that you miss.

 

Andrea Ross 

Yeah, yeah, hundred percent. So

 

Bryn 

how do we you, you do a number of things don’t use so you got sort of two lies you got, as you just mentioned, you know, yoga meditation Stuff like that. All the great stuff there, but also singer artists, opera singer.

 

 

Yes. Tell me about that.

 

 

Um, well, I kind of got out of university while I got into university and I thought what I want to do with my life, and I always knew that I was different. I knew that I was never going to live a conventional life. nine to five didn’t appeal to me. I really wanted to stay aloft. And from a very young age, I used to say to my mom, I know I’m here for something big and she used to just, you know, get sick of me saying this. So what happened to Joe? Yes. So, um, you know, when I was in university, I did performance in journalism at Curtin. And that was fine and then when I realised I went to ABC to do work, experience and realise that journalism wasn’t for me. I didn’t like hearing the news. There was something energetically wrong about it. And then it was at 20 actually, after I had a big bright breakup with an ex, that I went into singing and I found Hugh Jackman’s old scene coach. Yeah. And she actually lives still in Fremantle on Holland streets. Her house didn’t get taken out, but she, she really encouraged me to see. And so anyway, went to Walker for a few years and finished the degree at Curtin doing journalism performance studies. And then went back to and did opera full time training, the Western Australian Academy Performing Arts both off for Yeah, um, for four and a half, five years, pretty much full time dedicated my life to it. And then, you know, took a weird turn of events, which now looking back makes a lot of sense. Yona and sorry, I went in auditions in New York and San Francisco and got into the opera schools there. I’d actually came back my intuition just screamed at me and said, You’re not going and I went, What the fuck do you have no plan B. And so I ended up really last for about a year just didn’t know what I was doing stop singing lessons. last performance on performance in 2015. At Fremantle, I said fit and then I read something after another breakout which seems to be my revelations when data completely spiritual path which started with a retreat in Bali that I actually got gifted, actually didn’t pay for this retreat. I got gifted it from this beautiful soul. And that’s what started my Tantra training and started the data healing and the self inquiry which then changed the trajectory of my life, which I’ve been on this journey for the last I’d say at least four years, and have brought that back into singing because I needed to be able to heal my emotional energetic self before I actually could come back and integrate it all into singing, which I’m doing now. Wow. Wow.

 

Andrea Ross 

Yeah, it’s been a journey.

 

Bryn 

Taking that in. So it’s almost. So it’s like, you know, in order for you to do what you’re going to do you see you have to develop as a person as well,

 

 

absolutely. Because when I was singing at Walmart, I had no confidence. We will always critiqued so it’s a very critical industry unless you really know yourself. You actually you have the stability and I crumbled, and I didn’t sing for years because I was so critical. And then when I did all that healing work, I got to access my emotion. So now I sing with more emotion than I used to. I got to clear up a lot of energetic blocks. I had to integrate a lot of people live past lives. A lot of karma had to clear and then yeah, now It just seems like a brace compared to what I went through a whopper, which was somewhat traumatic in a way to be that heavily criticised when you’re very young and vulnerable. And I’ve had a few singers who have said that even though it’s a beautiful training academy it’s also very critical and not enough positive rain horrible. Oh is absolutely the industry is acting in singing industry is brutal, but if you know yourself and you know what you can bring and deliver and you’re solid, then you’re good to go.

 

Andrea Ross 

Yeah, and if you know if you’re not you

 

 

will probably crash and burn like I did, but I like to do then resurrection now. Sorry. Yeah. Jackson.

 

Bryn 

Was it about about the singing that drew you in?

 

 

You know what, when I was when I was a kid, I had being the empath and the I guess really sensitive person I am. Singing was my outlet. Singing was how I got to express myself when I didn’t get to with words, but I could adopt those lyrics and the melodies and something just allow me to express from that place. So I actually taught myself how to sing to the radio. And so, you know, Christina Aguilera, I’d lost her in my room, my parents would ask me to shut up, they still do to this day, if I sing at their place, I’m just too loud. They go Dad goes down the back end of the house. And it was really an outlet for me. It was the only way between that and writing that I knew how to express myself and all these emotions that you feel when you’re especially transitioning from being a girl to a woman. That’s a really big time period where there’s such big changes and yet music and seeing just help me express that and acting as well.

 

Bryn 

Is that expression and releasing of an in in a thing that you now take into the yoga and Tantra as well.

 

 

Yeah, it’s it’s um, yoga and meditation. Again my action. I come back to breakups, but they’ve been my biggest teacher. I was meant to move to Sydney with my ex two years ago, and then we broke up. And of course, I was in a last place, I had nothing behind me and then arva at spunda yoga school, she took me on board. So I studied with her, I helped run her studio for a year, but that’s when you deep dive into yourself when you’re like, in meditation or in in yoga, and there’s nowhere to go and all this stuff comes up on every single level, like physically, mentally, emotionally energetically, that you have to deal with. And so that was the most healing year and a half, two years for me where I got to be steel and I actually just got to access all these layers and as we were talking about before these gifts, which I didn’t know I had in a way, I guess if you would, I guess if you want to call it salt like some people call psychic abilities channelling whatever One you know, however you connect to source and just being a vehicle for messages is when my gifts really came alive because I was quiet enough to listen to them and out of the mind, body and analytical overlay

 

Andrea Ross 

just quiet stillness. Yeah.

 

Bryn 

Yeah. What is it about breakups then that seemed to be the

 

 

catalysts

 

 

you know, for me, I’ve looked quite a lot into relationships they’ve been my my biggest trigger for work for healing and showing me my wounds Yeah, sorry. Um, and I’ve also gone into the different types of relationships the main three being karmic, twin flame and soulmate, the ones I know anyway, you know, I’m sure there’s many out there. For the uninitiated, Oh, of course I can. I would love to there’s nothing, nothing I love more. So with karmic relationships, I had three minutes Have ones or which bought me many lessons and gifts. So with these karmic relationships, they come in intensely into our life. We feel like they’re the one they’re definitely not just private. So they came, they came in at a time in my life when I needed to really wake up. So I had three big karmic relationships one was when I was 2021 years old, I actually found singing after that which was a beautiful gift because yeah, I just went Fuck it. I’m so depressed and so whatever I’m just going to go into seeing so had no fail. Why don’t you know? Exactly. And then my second colleague one was beautiful way. He was a ex bodybuilder we’re working in this in the gym together. This is this was actually in the year I was lost from from when I didn’t take the scholarship in New York and was last in any way met my beautiful ex who actually you know, we’re on good terms and we actually reconnected last in this year and made peace after three and a half years. But that was messy and then after that it was when I found my spiritual path literally we broke up that weekend I went to attacher events then boom it was it was on from then yeah, and then my last one which which we broke out two years ago actually to this month, hey really showed me my power. And he actually invited he actually taught me how to also you know, cleanse houses tuned into my gifts. So he was a big catalyst and then we were meant to definitely break up uh, he showed me my power and to never let anyone mess with my power again because he definitely did and I allowed him to take a lot of I allow I gave him essentially my pal which I’ll never do again to any boyfriend or future pottery individual So they beautiful lessons and blessings in there. Then you move on to the twin flame who I’ve met. Who is your soul counterpart? Yes. So some people don’t have these twin flames, but they’re literally your sole reflection. Yeah. And mine came into my life last year, he came to my yoga classes he just burned he was there. I did Oh, God has been one of unconditional love. It brings you back to the source like it didn’t matter what he what he did. I couldn’t dislike him or run from him or run from our connection. So we’re on. We’re on beautiful terms, even though we’re not together, but our souls want to be and then you have the third type in my opinion, which is the soulmate, which is the it’s easy. It’s when you’ve cleared the karma. It’s that person who’s going to be there for you and still want you to grow not as intensely as the twin flame dynamic, but those soulmates that allow you to grow and they’re going to be there they’re not going anywhere. So you know a lot of people are blessed to be in twin flame or soulmate relationships. twin flames a lot harder. Let me tell you yes, I breakups have been a huge catalyst for me so I’m like really, really grateful

 

Bryn 

for their amazing start with this, these life events will come to the parallels of today

 

 

in a minute, but

 

Bryn 

no, I was asked a while back. And I think I might have mentioned this before, but you know, the podcasts go why real What? What’s real? is nothing more real than an ending.

 

 

Absolutely,

 

Bryn 

I couldn’t agree more this relationship, whether it’s job, life, whatever they seem to be the moments, the ending. When you’re like, Ah, that’s what’s been going on. Yes, that’s where they’re the most painful, right sometimes sometimes, like Someone’s got the sharpest knife and just sliced it into you. Yeah, if you can sit and be alright with that, then that’s greatest healing. Time for great is healing time for grades learning time for grace revelation. And so yeah, what is real endings?

 

 

Yes, yep. From endings, you know, I always say to clients or you know, whoever I’m friends from endings, that’s where beginnings happen. But you’ve got to allow the space, the space for healing the space for something else to come in something is better or something. It’s more aligned to you went where you’re going, essentially. Hmm.

 

Bryn 

So obviously there are parallels there. And that’s kind of why I was keen to talk to you. It’s kind of parallels there to where we are today. On Wednesday, the 25th. You know, we’ve been taking so much progress To the rich could well be taken away from us for a period of time undefined? Yeah, we started off talking about this social interaction. You know, soon it could be the ability to walk outside. You know, my, my fiance said to me, You know, I’m missing the ability to go for swim by a coffee and chat to my friends. So many things. Many things. Yeah, we’ve taken for granted. And now they’re all being questioned. Right? Yeah, to its absolute fabric of everything we hold there. Right down to the wave of the carpet that we stand on every single day. Mm hmm. How do you make sense of it?

 

 

I made

 

 

Yeah, for those. For those of us who I mean for a lot of people to journeys, just starting now. I mean, if you’re Not if you’re not awake to what’s happening at the moment, it’s like so we’ve had lots of layers you know, we’ve been a lot of us, you probably include a brain has felt the layers coming for the last few years. And it’s it started energetically. This is how I always think things move through energetically you feel it, then mentally you feel that emotionally or physically. So if people don’t pay attention to those other layers, guess what now physically things are being taken away. Yes. Are we literally if if people haven’t, this is an invitation for people to wake up but sometimes as we were just saying with endings, you need stuff taken away from you to actually realise it’s like what it’s like if you fucked up a relationship with someone and then you’re like, Oh my god, I want them back. They was so good. You know, I’m sure my ex’s think that if they’re listening

 

 

I love that.

 

 

And yeah, it’s just it’s it’s literally for us to, I guess see the bigger picture and for those of us who are tuned into what’s going on on a bigger scale, everything’s crumbling. And you know, I think I’ve mentioned this to you when we’re trying before astrologers have been predicting this for years. It was always going, we couldn’t keep going the way things are. And our society has been based on the last 2000 years on this unhealthy masculine paradigm, where we just take what we want. We just it’s it’s constant. What’s the word we just need it in the moment instead of having a bigger vision for looking after everyone in the earth, it’s just been about this greed and this money and this false sense of security,

 

Bryn 

isolation connected to the rest of the world. Hi. I’m in Ireland.

 

 

We might be sown and we might be stuck on an island not being allowed to go out of my house. Yeah,

 

Bryn 

yeah. And so yes, when you say a masculine energy, just so we’re clear, you’re not saying we’re not men hate it. Yeah.

 

Andrea Ross 

No, no, we are not men hating men are beautiful. So

 

 

no, I love men. Oh my god. So we have a basic little Tantra training phase one her, of course is interested you have we each have within us a union of masculine and feminine energy and this is the teachings of Tantra are and what’s been around for thousands of years. You have a healthy and unhealthy and we’re seeing the unhealthy masculine play out right now. And we’ve created this society just based on selfish egoic needs and that’s not thinking about anyone else as a result. This divine beautiful feminine energy has has turned unhealthy, but it’s also been suppressed. So now we’re seeing from this, the rise of this divine feminine energy to come into balance so I can actually come in so I just got goosebumps, commentary I, A union A harmony, which is actually what Yoga means union to come into this harmony to create this new world because we’re actually shifting science we’ve moved from the age of Pisces to the Age of Aquarius. So that’s what the astrologers have been predicting everything crumbling, we have to create a new world where everyone is at harmony and peace, like we can’t just keep going the way we’ve been going. It’s just not going to work.

 

Bryn 

I mean, I think purely from an observational point of view. One of the things that I’ve been thinking about recently is just how quickly society is crumbling.

 

Andrea Ross 

Yes.

 

Bryn 

And it demonstrates the thin veneer that we’ve been operating on right. telling yourself Bullshit stories that it’s all gonna be all right. And it’s so thin. And, you know, it hasn’t taken long for that start to look a bit sketchy. Yeah, got to talk about fucking toilet rolls.

 

 

And you’re wrong.

 

Bryn 

So it’s made me think about row what needs to be in what needs what needs there to be there instead? And it’s not what does it look like? Because I don’t know the answer to that but what needs to be? And to me it’s like, well there needs to be something of great depth. Something of greater depth

 

 

where

 

Bryn 

empathy is important. Absolutely, like know that we talked about. We talk about, I’ve noticed a rise in you know, discussion around there like now Islam and stuff like that. And that’s more of a symptom

 

 

of where we’re at, rather than our narcissism, like his greatest thing.

 

Bryn 

And and you can see how narcissism has been fed with social media, you know, particularly things like Twitter and Instagram, as well as Facebook, that, you know, those Instagram of, I’d say is a ringleader of narcissistic behaviour. And you know, what is in that? There is a distinct lack of empathy. It’s as if the empathy chip has been taken out. Yeah. And so what does a deeper society look like? Well, it probably has a bit more empathy as central core. Yeah, so when drum is turned up, there is more robustness and stillness of mind and empathy for one another to go right. We’re all in This, there’s no there’s no I’m going to show for you down the back end of it and we’re gonna stay up here. Yeah, this part of the planet. Yeah, not have it. We’re gonna be right now. We’re all in this together.

 

Andrea Ross 

Yes. Yeah.

 

 

Pretty much Well yeah, it’s coming back we’ve been allowed to be separated. And I think it all starts with the self sorry if we’re connected if we’re from the heart if we’re living this heart centred intuitive life which you know 5% or maybe 2% of us are then that’s the starting points you know, to creating to having once we’re if we’re disconnected from our feminine which is our emotions and our receptivity, then we don’t really have a chance of creating this new world. So it’s really important for us, you know, that’s why the some destructions happening at the moment, you know, everybody has to crumble. So we can build this new world that we’re not separate, we actually realise that every single thing is connected, you know, I can’t even kill an insect. Because I say that, that insects is essentially me. And you know, God or source or whatever you believe in, isn’t everything. So you know, we can’t exclude if we’re excluding others, we’re excluding ourselves and everything is a beautiful reflection of us. I think we’ll come to understand in society and not blame, not shame. Take responsibility for our own healing. And once we heal, then others heal as well.

 

 

Yeah.

 

Bryn 

It’s interesting that you talk about you know,

 

 

God, source light, Allah for wherever you want.

 

Bryn 

Contact for you. There’s a big question of faith, about about to occur.

 

 

And

 

Bryn 

for me, some of the strongest characters I’ve interviewed where I’ve been really like blown away have been people of faith out and out open faith and and I’ve had my own little journey with it over the last 12 months almost a returning to fight. And you know, as we’re faced with uncertainty and the mind doesn’t like certain love certainty and that’s why you know, it’s cracked everyone’s craving, like, the amount of people that are posting shit like, oh, I’ve got this friend is a doctor and this post and he really must share this. It’s like, you just your mind is craving certainty in a world of uncertainty, where, you know, we fear uncertainty, we feared that we fit unknowns. That’s where you know, I can’t give you The answer, I can’t tell you how it’s going to be. Nope. What the details going to be? Unless we have dropped into a bit of faith. You know, I was chatting to my daughter the other day. And I said, I genuinely don’t know what’s going to happen. Right, and I’m a role model. Now, Romo, I said to her, but whatever it’ll be. It’ll be good. Now that’s not just some bullshit to make her feel all right. Yeah, that’s how I genuinely feel.

 

 

It’s gonna be nice. Yeah,

 

Bryn 

it’s gonna be rough and don’t think I’m gonna sit here and sail through. Yeah, fucking No, I already haven’t already. In the last day. I’ve had two meltdowns. And Ronan?

 

Andrea Ross 

Yeah. Yep.

 

Bryn 

So yeah, I think there’s going to be a large question of what people actually Believe when endings occur and shit gets real,

 

Andrea Ross 

yes, because of anything. Yeah.

 

Bryn 

That’s when you’re like, what do I actually actually?

 

Andrea Ross 

Yeah. Yeah.

 

 

Is the

 

Bryn 

Have I been going to the meditation retreat and doing the work? Or have I been going to meditation retreat and doing the work?

 

 

I was legitimately thinking about this yesterday, because I’ve seen some layers, you know, some heart centred leaders, who are, let’s say, influences on Instagram. I’ll tell you about this, my friend yesterday. And when the rubber hits the road, this is all bringing out where we’re at. It’s bringing out our shadows. It’s bringing out how face essentially our connection. Do we trust? Everything is good because I’ve literally been on Phase I think why I ended up being period when we switch astrological year I had a bit of a meltdown for a day. And then I’ve just been feeling solid and clear and grounded. And I’m like, we literally have nothing to worry about. Yes, it’s gonna be a bumpy ride. But this is all for the better as you said to your daughter, it’s all creating what we actually need and whether or not people actually realise we consciously create together. So we’ve actually created what’s going on at the moment and it’s for all of us. Yeah, we agree to a way you know whether people believe in past lives or contracts, that’s a whole different thing. But we all agreed to be on Earth at this time and everyone is playing their designated sole purpose. Exactly here as we are and it’s all about and this is also again, I bring up the feminine for some reason I feel like I need to today is it’s connecting the feminine is the mystery. You can never pin her down. She is the chaos and that is the surrender. I think the biggest thing we can do is surrender and that’s been my journey these last four years is surrendering to the unknown. Like I had stuff thrown at me I have been in completely helpless situations and there was nothing else that I could do but just surrendering give into the divine needed to occur or what needed to happen sorry actually you said it’s a it’s a it’s a thing of faith and trust are the biggest things at the moment just shuffling around cuz my heads get don’t get don’t get sunburned.

 

Bryn 

I need cat

 

Andrea Ross 

just as example.

 

Bryn 

And as an interlude, it’s interesting to hear you talk about surrender. For me. It’s been about the word that’s been coming up over the last six, eight months has been allowing.

 

 

Yes,

 

Bryn 

yeah. And allowing to me has been on the surface, it sounds quite possible. But it’s not it’s very active.

 

 

Absolutely. Like

 

Bryn 

you said the doo doo doo to create. It’s allowing things to create allowing things to happen. surrendering to them, you know, you know, I happily said to you Just then, you know, I’ve lost my shit twice in the last 24 hours.

 

 

very honest and very admirable. Yeah,

 

Bryn 

well, I have you know, and you know, I, I share my share my thoughts on on Facebook. Yeah. Life, which I loved. Yeah, for, for whatever reasons, multiple reasons. And you know, I don’t want anyone thinking that, you know, I’m not susceptible to fears and worries in this than the other and it’s interesting, you know, you can see like, the more things are being taken away, it starts off with the light, or it’s quite novel, it’s quite amusing. And then it comes a little bit irritating. And then it becomes annoying, and then just something something will just trigger what is really fucking annoying place. Yeah. And for me yesterday it was really about the fact that the beach might be closed. No. Well there’s

 

Andrea Ross 

Yes, yeah. Yeah,

 

Bryn 

you know, and then that to me was like, Holy fuck where am I if I don’t get a drop into the big blow in the morning? It’s a daily routine. Yeah.

 

 

Yeah, it’s affecting us all in like very different real ways. For me it’s the same The ocean is cleansing. It’s like how we connect to nature. And I think behind all of this, I mean, there’s so many things I could talk about with this whole thing. But it’s the system is trying to keep us separated. So by taking away freedoms, such as going to the beach takes away our connection to nature Mother Earth which keeps us grounded and centred. And so I you know, I’m the same as you I got, I got fucking pissed off the other day I just wanted before Monday, midday, I want to just go in and sit, I love seeing cafes, and then now doing takeaway, and I was like, This is my fucking favourite thing to do i do and you’re literally limiting that. And now I just have to do work from my house instead of I love doing work in cafes, that’s where I’m inspired. Yeah, and it’s just those things that it triggers you to be like, but I want my freedom. And we it’s a it’s a birthright, that everyone has the freedom, the freedom to move the freedom to speak the freedom to share their truth, and it’s being censored and then some of our stuffs being sets on Facebook, which is freedom of speech, and being able to share with other people. So it’s just it’s crazy what’s happening in the moment and it’s going to be so many surprises to the lengths that the system will go through, to keep us contained and keep us isolated, which is what’s obviously happening now. Yeah,

 

 

I’d see that play.

 

 

Um, a few ways. This is an invitation for the for the people, whether they know it or not to rally together. You know how, and I see this going into the thing of control all our stuffs being bought up around control. I’ve seen people shaming people on Facebook, I think we’re talking about is saying, oh, Britain, Android, you shouldn’t go to the beach. But that’s how we connect and we’re staying centred for the people who aren’t centres. There has to be a balance. We’re all doing our work, whether we know it or not. And I think it’s going to get a bit worse before it gets better, which I’ve heard from so many people, you know, and yeah, this whole thing of isolation and keeping us separate. is so not cool, but I definitely think it’s gonna get worse. I see this going on for at least the next three months. If not Six and another thing on piest off the bat is I wanted to travel Sorry, I was actually meant to be going to India next month. And the fact is I caught going to India and have my spiritual experience and journey pisses me off my soul just wants to travel but we’re all being confined to where we are for a reason. So you know, I believe they can take keep tabs on us and you know, there’s, there’s new developments happening every day. So it’s literally being okay in the unknown and then adjusting to what’s going on. But the biggest way to obviously do that is internally, so if we’re grounded and centred, we can adjust and fly with anything that’s happening. But there will come a time where we do need to stand together and want to say overthrow the government and system to create this new world. It’s not going to happen. We can’t try and mould or fix the system. We’ve got to start a completely new one but it’s got to be from the people. The people have to start as the Age of Aquarius. It’s like Everyone’s looking out for everyone else. And we’ve got to all decide and start this new world together. But it has to be all of us coming together as one It can’t be from this this thing of AI or ego or separation. It’s got to be all together and from the heart and yeah, I just I’m excited to see how this all plays out and feel like we’ve already seen those acts of kindness and the community coming together. We’ve also seen the other aspects but more people are coming into compassion through this. There’s been more compassion, more empathy, more kindness, which has been beautiful to see and there’s also been you know, the other side, but that’s dying down and I think that’s dying off and we’re coming into more of this love for one another and whatever we have for ourselves and one another just reflects us. Yeah.

 

 

It it

 

Bryn 

essentially interesting. You should Yeah. talk it through like that. Because

 

 

Yeah,

 

Bryn 

I just can’t see how you keep the human spirit tucked up at home all the time.

 

 

It’s insane. We’re not meant to be and this is the thing that I’ve always had back in the day. We were part of tribes and community and then guess what we’ve been putting houses put in offices, people on the majority of people who are working a nine to five or you know, whatever you’re doing, you’re not getting the connection to Mother Nature, you’re not getting the connection to other the stress levels are through the roof. You’re not actually getting that human connection. Oh my god, the human connection and this is why I’m so this is why this is happening at the moment. We can’t hug each other. They made social distancing. And, you know, part of me Well, most of me is just like, Fuck that. Like, I just want to hug people or like cuddle and yeah, I it’s definitely all planned. Well, my perspective anyway, some people may have everyone but we’ve got a lot allow everyone to be how they be at this time, and not shame people for if we want to be at the beach. So via VR, we’re trying to control like all these control stuffs coming up for society, where the government’s trying to control us all the system, and then we’re trying to control what other people do now and saying, but you shouldn’t go to the beach or the shoe shaming, which I it’s a it’s our control, and it’s this old masculine y which is dying, it’s unhealthy masculine, this is the feminine, doesn’t try control. She just surrenders to whatever is and it’s comes back to, as you were saying this allowing, allowing and accepting everything to just be as it is not trying to control outcomes, because that’s coming from our ego and coming from this uncertain place. Whereas if we’re connected to source and ourselves, we know we have a certainty that is unshakable, you know, it, you can’t like with me, you can’t shake white like something As you can Don’t get me wrong I have meltdowns. Yeah, I was just like no some of those get super caught up sometimes get super sad but you can’t shake my trust in my face in the divine and what’s going to happen and what’s happening exactly now as much as my suck thing in the house it’s actually all necessary because people need to slow down and deal with this shit collectively. This can’t we can’t keep going if you

 

Bryn 

know it’s getting quicker and

 

Bryn 

quicker and quicker. Yeah, and everyone’s being frenetic

 

Bryn 

you got to do the thing you got to think possible, you know?

 

Bryn 

Okay, in hustle,

 

Bryn 

Gary Vaynerchuk he’s got a lot to say oh my god,

 

 

like hustle I’m like no face it’s this it’s his way of being and we’ve all been conditioned so

 

Bryn 

business what you you know Yeah, up until recent what you’ve been up to I’ve been busy man. It’s it’s I’ve likened it to the modern day cracker the predicted.

 

Bryn 

Yes. And if you don’t make busy. You’ve been slacking Yes. Yeah.

 

Bryn 

Yeah. Busy or you know, I rang a friend the other day, what are you doing? I’m getting it done. Well, lots of things about getting it done.

 

 

Yeah, it’s just become it’s become like, almost acceptable or call in this society to be busy and be hustling because of main success. But actually this this new way, and we’ve gone to jobs we don’t like, Oh, shit, yeah, we’ve disempowered ourself, we’ve given ourselves our power over to the system or jobs that we like we hate. And we haven’t actually slow down. This is what this isolation period is for slowing down to tie off loose ends, to actually figure out what you’re passionate about what your purpose is here because every single person has a purpose, and actually process all the stuff that you didn’t process when you were being busy. It’s time to process those emotions and integrators. So We all use this time productively aka not doing being actually just being human beings. We’re not called human doings is a is a thing I like to say to my yoga students, it’s time to slow down together. And so there was no other way. But for this to happen, so we all have to be in our homes, there’s nowhere to run, there’s nowhere to go. We just have to sit with our own shit and just deal with it and work through whether that’s by yourself or getting a professional, professional to help you move through some emotions and energetics highly recommend online Of course, but it’s a time for us to slow down and deal with our own stuff. Because when we deal with it, we help the world as well. It’s not just all of us. We’re all connected. So the more we all deal with it. So there’s your moral

 

Bryn 

obligation.

 

 

Yeah. Yes, pretty much. Yes. So like, the more you deal with your stuff, the more you’re helping everyone else. Yeah. And that’s what I hate about philosophy is I’ve copped it, which I don’t care. People are like, what are you doing with your life? We don’t under And you have so much time and space and you’re always at the beach. And I’m like, I’m actually doing stuff every day. I’m having these realisations. I’m putting it all into practice with my clients. You know, it’s people, they can’t see the inside work you’re doing, but they can feel it. They just start knowing what it is. Yes.

 

Bryn 

Yeah, that is 100% true, because it doesn’t look like anything, but it just feels like something.

 

Andrea Ross 

Yeah.

 

Bryn 

And feelings are the source, you know, feelings precede words. You know, it’s, that’s what’s those words can provoke feelings, but

 

 

absolutely. And

 

Bryn 

yeah, it’s like, I think, as you said, this whole coming back in and being still and being quiet. I think, anybody, anybody, anybody who’s listened to this podcast would recognise this in themselves, of having gone away for two or three weeks on holiday. Something the beach, chilled out. After three or four For days of letting it go, and probably having an argument with the missus, or drinking too much in the first couple of days, because you’re just sort of like hidden, letting the layers go and killing the layers with drink and stuff like that. And then finally, you’re like, I just don’t want to drink anymore. I just want to sit and chill and read my book, or you and then even the book goes, and then you find yourself gazing at the ocean much like we’re doing now. And then all of a sudden, this stuff starts coming up. And all of a sudden, you know, instead of sitting in that accountancy job or office job, you’re like, I wish I owned a cafe. I wish I could always wanted to paint. Why did I not continue playing the trumpet? Why do I not sing stuff like that? You know, and and then it becomes so important. And it becomes all consuming while you’re on the holiday. And you have the best intentions when you get back. And then all of a sudden you get back and it’s just or it’s a little bit uncomfortable and you grab for the convenient gears back into life. You get back into the office, and you go Yeah, okay, I and you know, You might shut yourself off an email to you know, inquire or when you do trumpet lessons or something like that. But then the email comes back he delete it and and then Off you go and you carry off in the same cycle. You know one of the best things that ever happened to me was being made redundant in no end of November 2015 in the you know, zero price drops and I got made redundant from Chevron along with many others. end of November. I try to find a job in Perth during December January.

 

 

Sit and be with that brain. Yep.

 

Bryn 

citavi that are sat and sat with that for four months. And you know what? I went through like such crisis and then after that, my days were filled. Right Stuff, seeing people helping people out. learning stuff. was such a chore going back to work.

 

 

Yes, I can imagine it would have been Yeah, after that little hiatus, period. So you

 

Bryn 

just picking something up in the south, you got goose bumps earlier on talking about the divine feminine. And that seems to be coming through quite strong for you at the moment.

 

 

Yes, just today apparently. Do you want to talk about

 

Bryn 

something else coming through?

 

 

No, no, the moment something usually triggers something to come through and then it just it just goes but it felt really important. Maybe it’s for the people listening. It’s so important it is time because we’re all going to be feeling emotions. And it’s whether we actually allow ourselves to feel them more if we shut them down again. And this is you know, the repressed feminine is being shown in all of us. And especially you know, with the whole male thing, don’t show emotions Don’t cry. Yes. been a huge thing. I love seeing guys cry. There is nothing more like it’s so humbling and beautiful. Like my beautiful twin flame. He cries and front of me, like, so often lost do. And it was so beautiful because when we cry, that’s what brings us into our hearts. So when we have that heartbreak, the heart cracks open, so we’re more in our hearts. But if we just shut everything off and don’t feel like I’ve seen, you know, with a lot of my exes, they just pushed everything to the side and usually it actually come through me and I ended up crying for them for them. And so it’s you know, it’s to do I’ll pause and unless whatever we repress will always be there. But if we actually have the courage to feel it, it gets released, we get cleanse, we feel completely different. But if we just keep on piling these layers, we end up like robots and disconnected and this is actually how everything started. We just haven’t been feeling enough as he said, coming back to empathy. Yeah. And feeling those emotions were human beings. We’re not robots. We’re meant to feel Yes, emotions can be messy as like you know oh this big tall girl on the floor just boiling boiling oil in the car and but then you feel amazing after you have this clarity and that things go on that emotion that energetic releases happens so

 

Bryn 

interesting you say this because so I grew up in England 11 years boys boarding school. Right You know, shields are up. shields are up compartmentalization ninja Ninja, you know, I could you know also you could chuck shit my way and I could always

 

 

make the best of it.

 

Bryn 

Yeah I can make the best of it. I can I can put a happy spin in my mind. But I would accept it and then do it. And but I’d have to compartmentalise stuff and this than the other or well i’ll i’ll delay my gratification On now pretty good with that, did it there for later on, and all this sort of stuff. And then, you know, ended 30s I’m 45 now and the 30s got really untidy, and then more and more and more, you know those layers and surrendering and allowing those layers to the point where, you know, my parents were over recently, and a couple of things happened in like, I was a fucking mess for a couple of days. Now, boys, they’re going, competing, pull it together. This is the you know, cometh the hour cometh the man type stuff. And I had to sort of say to it, like I said, both of them at the time, I was like, I can’t do compartmentalization anymore. I don’t have the energy for it. It’s a waste of time. You know, from a male perspective, it’s a waste of time and energy. And we hate nothing more than wasting time and energy. But I don’t have any energy in reserve. And what’s more, it’s just fucking things up. And so Yeah, this what you see now is your son who’s brilliant keeping it together. He’s just fucking untidy now. But I know because I’ve been into the abyss several times now. And again, happier going into the abyss is like tardiness, but but I want to do like, Yeah, what’s out the back? It’s like the whole thing when you start going to the gym you’re like fuck I hate going to the gym, but then after a while you’re like, but I want to do like is how to fill out the bat. Yes. And then after a while then that that gratification comes into your gym session. And then you enjoy the gym session as much as how you feel out the bat. Yeah, it’s a fill out the back. And and so I think what’s been the draw to go into the untidiness and the messiness of being angry, being anxious being being angry. Yeah, you know, to me, male plus anger equals destruction previously. Yep, but not anymore. Now. Mail plus anger. sat with for a while equals fuel on the fire to get a lot of shit done absolute good shit yeah watch it yes stuff that comes from your heart

 

 

yeah yeah awesome fuel yeah awesome feel yeah it’s amazing and as you said allowing because I was an angry kid but didn’t know how to deal with this well once we know about it or you’re angry about oh everything you know i would i would i was the biggest I was like a bomb waiting anything would trigger me I had so much stuff that I anything would send me into spin one sentence one word burn that was it. I was an angry angry kid because I didn’t understand. The world didn’t make sense to me when I was a kid being a really sensitive kid and trying to keep a container on emotions and everything. You know, it was so funny I took up when I was because I started dating like 1314 and people We’d be like, Andrew, why are you taking like years to get over the sky? And that’s like the worst thing you could say to anyone because you’re like, not allowing them to have their process. And I think for people, what happens is I feel the emotions and then because of conditioning or because they’re scared to go into that wound or that memory or that whatever happens that trauma, they put a lid on us. But if you actually put it back Oh, yeah, and that goes somewhere else. Exactly. All us. And this is the biggest thing right now is what we’re seeing. Guess what, we have no external distractions. The most we can do is FaceTime someone at the moment ever in our house, but there’s no external distractions. We have to sit with it. But what people what I see a lot of people they’re scared to go through that emotion and see it through to the end. Correct. Yeah. What they don’t realise is when you do that, and it’s released and you feel like that pace. And you feel that the as I did a post the other day, actually, because we’re actually in a new moon today. So and it’s a file One so you can shadow that fire energy there’s an unhealthy way to channel which is destruction abusing someone or you can channel it into your projects your relationship. There’s there’s ways to fuel those emotions so positively benefit you your life those around you and then there’s unhealthy like, you know turning to alcohol abusing someone taking out on such out essentially someone who doesn’t deserve us. Yeah and we end up hurting each other which is of course not. That’s right.

 

Bryn 

Your wounds are still bleeding all over everybody else.

 

 

Yes, exactly just like ripped open. And, you know, we have a lot of thing of projection in society where we’re projecting. There’s unresolved stuff onto other people and expecting them to accept a certain way instead of just being accepting them as they are. It comes from our own stuff. So once we change that perspective, and this only comes from sitting with yourself and knowing thyself. Daniel, your whole life’s gonna change. Essentially.

 

 

It is exciting. We’re creating a new world. It’s very exciting.

 

Bryn 

Yeah, in front of us. Yeah. We’ve reached a tipping point.

 

 

Oh, yeah. I see us on the edge of a cliff about to drop and go into this descent, and then come up and

 

 

just at that. Cool. Have you ever done a bungee jump? No, no, because they

 

 

scare me.

 

 

should do what?

 

Bryn 

Probably not at the moment. It’s just that great exciting point when you’ve left the bridge, yes. And you can still see out in front of you. And it’s just before gravity starts pulling. And you can’t see out in front of your you can see straight down because you’re plunging. I feel like we just we have left the bridge we have left the club.

 

 

Yeah, it’s literally like that, that that there’s no coming back.

 

Bryn 

Turn around and grab. Nope. We’ve gone

 

 

Yeah, you’re in the air. Yeah. The point Yes, yeah, we’re there at the bar but there’s there’s no returning back. I mean, it’s like people going back to toxic relationships repeating that cycle, it’s not worth going back, you’re just hurting yourself, you know what else it’s like close off that, that ending that world that dysfunction. And I’ll sit allow yourself to heal and spice and then start a new start a fresh and that’s what we’re doing at the moment.

 

Bryn 

So for someone who’s listening to this and going you know, two or three, four weeks ago, I would have said that those were smoking crack the way they’re talking, but now it’s all of a sudden, it’s making sense in amongst all the stuff that’s going on. And now you know, things are cracking open ships getting real. And now the the monkey whoo stuff that the Briton Andrea has just been talking about is making sense and I’m like, fuck him. I feel like I’m opening up what tangibly Not in a male way but but in the process, actively process step in and do what some of the simple things people can do.

 

 

The simple things at the moment, you know, step by step because I fully appreciate the people may think we’re crazy. And you know, the more we wake up we realise that we see to expand, not having a limited perspective and I’m well aware, but I don’t censor myself anyone

 

 

ever

 

Bryn 

because this is a this is a prime catalyst for expansion or contraction.

 

 

Exactly. So you know, when we’re presented with an opportunity or a situation or anything or a trigger, we either have the opportunity to expand Yeah, or we contract and shy away from it. And this is like Why fear is actually a good thing and I like I you know, it’s in self development, false evidence appearing real. You know, you’re either in fear or love and fear is a catalyst for change. But some of the more tangible ways that I would say to ground and going is of course yoga meditation. It’s like the biggest thing you can do at the moment. So there’s heaps of classes being streamed online, I’m actually doing one first funded this afternoon going to this year and streaming online. So you can actually do it with the tape shark because if you haven’t done yoga or meditation, no one had just started at home and not know what areas you meant to be feeling stretched or the movements you meant to be doing. In this beautiful YouTube guided yoga meditation. That’s the best way reading books getting back to reading getting back. But you know, yes, you can read fictional books and go into your own imagination as much as you want. But you know, 10 tangible, beautiful books on what you’re drawn to or listening to your podcast. There you go. Plug right here, listening to podcasts, which are going to open and expand your mind or bring you back to us. Anything that brings you back to yourself nature? Ah, yeah, I mean, nature’s the most grounding thing and like wave said asked her if we don’t get into nutshell. You have to get into nature every day. Otherwise we’re disconnected and the nature is feminine. She grounds us, she holds us and she’s been healed at the moment, which is amazing. She didn’t.

 

Bryn 

She cares, but she doesn’t care about you.

 

 

Totally. Yeah, no, yeah. If you’re standing there limping along, you know, a big waves coming, coming. It’s not gonna stop and go, you’re right. It’s gonna get hit by Exactly. Well, you know, modern day she has this beautiful compassion and she’s constantly giving us but this is like a wake up call. Yes. And it’s a wake up call. I mean, I just saw something today or yesterday that the ozone, the hole in the ozone layer is actually healing and it’s getting smaller, which is of course, you know, it has to take Yeah, Wait yes everyone you know whether we like it or not accepting allowing where we are at because it’s allowing it healing for us all and feminine nature which was so connected to so get on a nature even if it if you don’t want to leave your house at least your backyard or somewhere where you can put your feet on the earth and just connect in what else would I recommend just fading yourself with nourishing foods you know juices you’re doing a fast at the moment. Yep. Perfect why fast you become very clear very quick. You meet those obstacles you meet the resistance of a big I don’t intermittent fasting every day so I would only eat until midday now. I’m just nourishing yourself from the inside out. Whatever, whatever feels whatever makes you happy. I sing I be doing dancing in my house. The Tick Tock videos are hilarious at the moment. Even though it’s such a social media platform, it makes me laugh. At all the stuff that’s on there. But just allowing yourself give yourself the space to go inward and if you feel like you need support, if, if so much stuffs coming up that it’s overwhelming, reach out to someone you trust to reach out to a healer or like a counsellor her, you know, his or you feel is aligned to you to help you work through some stuff. It’s the big races, I’m calling this the big awakening in the big races. But it’s time for you to go inward. You know, it’s, we’ve spent so much of our time focusing on the external and thinking that’s real. It’s not it’s like what’s real is in you. And what’s real is the power that you’ve forgotten about or you haven’t reclaimed, it’s time to reclaim our sovereignty and our power. Yes in us. So when we do that, and when everyone goes inwards, we going to create these new worlds and be able to actually connect with one another not just these I fucking hype shallow conversations. I can’t do them I won’t do them. Yep, it’s like we go deep away going home.

 

 

I love it.

 

Bryn 

The wi real Yeah exactly. Yes My friends are getting fed up from a conversation

 

 

I know it’s time to jump like if you have loved ones tell them you love them actually express your emotions because I tell people I love them every day and it’s so important for you if you want to connect with people and FaceTime them and actually have those deeper combos and ask how people are doing a lot of people on okay at the moment because you you literally have come up with you’ve come up against these challenges of these obstacles and and your emotion so people some people aren’t doing okay. And it’s completely okay as the campaign says to not be okay. Yeah, it’s it’s completely okay. And depression is just depressed as I think Jeff foster says depression is just depressed you just say to sit with yourself, be with yourself. Anxiety is when we’re stressed about the future we’re in fear. So, if you’re present in the moment, there’s nothing to hold on to. There’s nothing to hold on to, there’s nothing to do, you are just being and that is what is. So that’s what I come back like we are now on the beach, just talking. There’s nothing else for us to focus on. We’re just in the moment, talking about whatever comes up and being fully present with each other, which is why so many relationships break down. partnerships, friendships, you’re not present, you’re not actively listening holding space, which is the healthy masculine for that other person, not judging them,

 

Bryn 

letting them healthy, masculine,

 

 

healthy, masculine, yes.

 

Bryn 

Was that holding

 

 

this, this capacity of holding space and this you know, it takes some work because of course, if you’re listening to someone and they trigger something, it’s trigger something trigger emotions, you know, how you can hold space. So this is where as I was saying, the rubber hits the road with these leads. is at the moment more heart centred, I guess if you want to call spiritual leaders, if they can hold space for other people. And you know, a lot of my sessions, a lot of my yoga classes are just me sitting if you can imagine this massive container, and just being present with everyone’s emotions, which actually helps people process. So if you come to me as a client and I just hold space for whatever you want to share, I’m not triggered, I can hold that loving awareness. You are, it’s an invitation for you to heal, I’m guiding you to and holding space, you’ve got to heal yourself and be seen, which is such a big thing. A lot of people are carrying these masks, because they’re afraid of being seen for who they truly are. But that’s where the magic is and allowing yourself to just be sane in your mess in your vulnerability in your joy and your bliss. Just the whole range of spectrum and it’s scary. Cuz you’re like, What? What if people don’t like the real me? But you’ve got to like the real you first hundred percent? Yeah.

 

Bryn 

So I have a big epiphany that when you talk about healthy male and holding space, because

 

Bryn 

that’s what this is.

 

 

Yeah, absolutely, yeah.

 

Bryn 

100% 140 conversations held in a space that I created. Absolutely. Yeah. So here’s a question that I’ve decided because I’ve had to reshape some

 

Bryn 

of my standards so that

 

Bryn 

I have sort of intro question the outro questions and so I’ve had to start rethinking about it. But what so here’s what I’m going to start asking more of, what do you see people doing this new? You hope sticks?

 

 

I see people especially at the moment. Not just Thinking about themselves. And I, I’ve totally been there I could, I can happily put up my hand and say like, there are times where I’ve been really selfish, especially growing up. But it’s, um, I see these kindness in his compassion. And I see people reaching out and doing stuff for others, which is I mean, I know it’s gonna stick because these these crisis or whatever you want to call it has brought us closer together. We’re no longer just going, Oh, do I have enough? But I mean, the toilet paper thing. That was just everyone’s shadow coming out. Yeah, I’m thinking of themselves. But then you say, at random acts of kindness as a group on Facebook, someone invited me and it’s beautiful to witness the kind acts that people are doing for one another. And you know, I’ve seen leaders I’m putting on a free meditation this weekend, just going, how can I be of service and help rather than going Oh, what do I need? This Is Us breaking out of that security, that survival, which we’ve all been stuck in, which is very associated with the base chakra. If people know about that is security to survive, we need to survive. And we’re breaking out of that and coming more into the like the heart and the feelings and going. Yeah, but I need to look out for that other person because if we don’t look out for each other, we’re not going to survive, which just came through its gates and just the the generosity of the moment it’s really beautiful and the people checking in with everyone going, are you okay? And that’s what I that’s what I desire to say, this new world, baby. I’m one that’s full of kindness and compassion. I’m not full of ego and materialism and great one and I think there’s a I think there’s a duality at the moment. I think we see A lot of control and like, you know, as I said systems or people try to bring in separation, and then you say the love and the connection. And at the moment, I kind of see it as a battle. But if we step into love, love is everything and love always wins. Yep, sorry, a society based on love, and compassion and empathy and kindness is, I think the new thing that really, really would be amazing if it stuck around.

 

Bryn 

Super, I think for me, as I popped up in this is if nothing else, it’s in barley. They have a weekend where they essentially do this. Shut up. Everything’s quiet stay in the house. If nothing else, maybe I’m looking at it through a paradigm of taking some of what was there before and move but there’s a balance there where you know, go Do do the thing, that there may be collectively on a global basis. We had two or three weeks for everyone. And now we’re all on holiday.

 

 

Yes. 100% and we maintain this awesome. Yeah, lock in it. Absolutely. You know, and this whole thing of work, work work, even people who have to work full time jobs or choose to, I should say, you don’t have to choose to, yeah, four day weeks, it would be so much more effective. In those four days, having three days off, we need more rest. If you think for every action we take, we need a balance of resting, that’s been lopsided, and everything like that. And today there’s a silent stay in Bali. I just spent two months in Bali. I was lucky enough to run my retreat in December, January. And they so what we’re seeing is these places like India and Bali. devotion is their number one and their connection to God, whatever they believe in. bigger than themselves. Number one. And so we think as a Western society, these places are behind us. They’re in front of us, because they’re connected with Bali, they work with nature. They don’t try and manipulate and moto. They just work with a. And this is why I’m so drawn to those places is because it’s a day spirituality and connection devotion is number one. We’ve lost touch with that in Western society. So like you tell me who’s like further ahead. You know, we’re literally having these crisis’s and I’m sure they’re all calm and collected. They’re not that I of course know but it’s it’s such a necessary part like imagine if us as a Western society, could our connection and our devotion to ourselves into soul so whatever you believe in as number one, and we actually in Bali, they give back so through prayer and ritual they actually give to the gods and give back to the earth which is why it’s so popular. It’s a it’s a purification centre. So if we actually changed the way we did things, and this is the restructure that’s happening at the moment, and we follow suit or come up with something where we get to put that at the forefront, and then once because once we’re connected, we we don’t want to hurt anyone. We don’t want to hurt the earth. We don’t want to hurt each other. It’s just because we’ve literally become so disconnected and so busy. Focusing on materialistic things and stuff that actually isn’t real. If we break it down. what’s real is like loving kindness and compassion. That’s real. Over materialism, having the next big house or having the next big car which can be ego driven. I’m not saying that stuff’s bad. One day I do want to buy like a holiday home somewhere and have that of course, because I believe you should have abundance in all areas of life. I don’t believe you know, we can have anything we want. And this is what we’re given the opportunity to is create what when you’re sitting You’re at home, what life do you want to create? What do you want to be doing? This is for you to recess. A lot of a lot of people listening have maybe lost their jobs, and change your perspective. And this is your rebirth. As you said, when you lost your job, it’s your rebirth. It’s not something to it’s not something to look at and go oh, this is like the worst thing that happened to me ever. Everything is a gift. So where it’s just it depends. Do you see it as a gift? Or do you see it as I’m trying to think of a word the worst thing has ever happened to you? Like, what do you see it as? And that has a massive impact on our own vibration and what we attract into our lives.

 

Bryn 

The last question I asked all my guests I’m still gonna ask is if you could take a little nugget, a golden nugget of knowledge and upload it into the collective consciousness. Everyone just gets it right now what would it be?

 

 

Oh, wow.

 

 

The biggest thing for me is choose love over logic.

 

 

Hmm. Because my my journey and what I see is in in society, the moment is that we’re very mind driven. And the mind needs to take a backseat, the heart and the intuition together is how we’re going to create this. So when you go to make decisions, don’t use the mind, use the heart, use your intuition. That’s how we’re going to move forward. And that was honestly my biggest transition. So I would say, there’s one piece of and maybe people are going, Andrea, what do you actually mean? Coming to the heart come into the body and access the wisdom that we all have over the mind which keeps us stuck and perceivably safe, but this is how this all happens because the mind has a lot of fear. So I’d say there’s one piece of advice choose love over logic. Love it.

 

Bryn 

It’s been an absolute pleasure talking today.

 

Andrea Ross 

Oh, thanks, Brandon. It’s been

 

Bryn 

awesome. It’s exactly what I needed today.

 

 

Oh, fantastic. I love that just transmissions left, right and centre.

 

Bryn 

I’m pretty sure it’ll be whatever anybody who listens to it or if people want to find you for a meditation, online meditation or yoga, where can they find you?

 

 

They could find me you know, either on Instagram on Andrea Alexandra Ross, on Facebook. I’m Andrea Ross. I just changed my page to pure awakening. Sorry, I’ll be doing some free meditation. I’m going to have a free Facebook group to share in daily insights that’s launching this week. And I’m going to be streaming some online yoga classes people come to me for one on one sessions, intuitive guidance, yoga, meditation, whatever they need. Because it’s really the time for everyone to step up, and it’s the time to rise together, essentially. So you can find me on Andrew Ross connect with me. Yeah, find me on social media hit me up, send me a message. And yeah, more than I feel like this is the last few years. This is why I’m here at the moment. It finally feels like it landed today or yesterday. It’s time to do this thing. Yeah. Yeah, time to do this. This is what we’ve been preparing for. And the times here and the time is now. So yeah, thank you for having me. It’s been awesome.

 

Bryn 

Awesome. Thank you.

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