#154 What if it were true? A conscious conversation with Tash Kelly

This week I enjoyed a conscious conversation with previous guest Tash Kelly, conscious explorer and dreamer.

In this beautifully exploratory conversation with Tash, we held space share observations and reflections about the recent shifts in the way we do life and the energy that surrounds that.

There is a strong emphasis throughout of letting go of our need for control and introducing more allowing as a key part of the modus operandi of life – particularly in these uncertain times.

By adopting this leading edge approach to life, we explore how it opens up space to experience what is to be, opens up greater possibility and possibility in front of us and also opens the gateway for a true connection to energies and intelligence that are so much bigger and expansive than we can perceive.

As always Tash brought her magical and inquisitive self, which really sets the tone and foundation that made this conversation possible.

For the listener, you will go on a fantastic journey of what may well be happening currently on a very deep level and you will be asked to consider – if just for a brief moment – what if it any of it were true?

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Bryn 

This week, I enjoyed a conscious conversation with previous guests Tash Kelly, conscious explorer and dreamer. And this beautiful exploratory conversation with Tash, we held space to share observations and reflections about the recent shifts in the way that we do live and the energy that surrounds that.

 

There is a strong emphasis throughout this conversation of letting go of our need for control, introducing more allowing, as a key part of the modus operandi of life, particularly in these uncertain times.

 

By adopting this leading edge approach to life, we explore how he opens up the space to experience what it is to actually be, opens up a greater possibility and probability in front of us and also opens up the gateway for a true connection to energies and intelligence that are so much bigger and expansive than we can perceive.

 

As always Tash her magical and inquisitive health Which really sets the tone and foundation that made this conversation possible.

 

For the listener, you’re going a fantastic journey of what may well be happening currently on a very deep level. And you’ll be asked to consider if just for a brief moment, what if any of it were true. So enjoy my conversation with ash.

 

Bryn 

Hello, welcome back to WA real. I’m your host, Bryn Edwards this week, rather than an interview, I thought we’d have more of a conscious conversation. And in doing that, I’d like to welcome back our previous guest, Tash Kelly. Tash, welcome back to the show.

 

Tash Kelly 

Thanks, Bryn. Good to be back. Especially this way This feels. Yeah, this feels interesting.

 

Bryn 

Yes. Welcome back to coming out. Coming back to the microphone. And then before we start, I wanted to just acknowledge you because when we last when we first met the before you turned up. And we had the first podcast, we had the podcast together before I was I was deeply intrigued with what you were doing. But then from that I have many people say what do you get from the podcast, there’s many things are one of the things I really value the most is when I make new friends. And I certainly value our friendship. I also want to acknowledge you because last year 2019, there were sort of three pivotal, big development moments for me and the second one of those was coming on your 30 days, which was an epic 30 days. And it was in a some people may think I do the podcast and then meet somebody and then move on to the next person then listen to them move on. But when people really didn’t capture me, I do go and actually pursue what they do. Deeply intrigued, which is why I came and did your 30 day challenge to open up to the universe, which was just profound in its simplicity, but then it’s but is enormous. Just the ability, just the allowing the universe to do the thing that we’ve all experienced at some point. And then just that allowing allows so many layers of anxiety to drop off. I’m sitting in the middle of 30 days thinking this is actually an awesome mental health talk. Just to allow anxiety to drop, not having to force the world. So I thought I’d start by acknowledging it.

 

Tash Kelly 

Thank you. Thank you. That’s beautiful. And I would like to acknowledge you back because it was very interesting to go and share on that podcast and then have you so openly come to the course. And you came with me guns blazing like you were absolutely open and willing to give it your all. And it’s so inspiring to have people like that on the course because it’s not just you inspire the group then and you were very vulnerable. You were really true and you did the work. And it’s the kind of, it’s the kind of course where the more you put in, the more you’re going to get out of it. And so you were one of those people that’s so exciting to work with. Because you’re there and you’re on the edge, you’re on the cusp, and you’re so ready and willing and, and open minded. And because these are radical new realms, yeah, wild new realms, and if you’re relatively new to it, it can be really radical. So it was so fun to have someone like you on the course. It’s brilliant.

 

Tash Kelly 

What makes it so radical. Because it’s so completely different to what we’ve been taught about who we are and what life is and what’s possible. And I think the spiritual realms have been, well, not well respected. We’ve not been taught to explore them on our own religions perhaps have been respected, but to seek on our own and to go and to unusual territory and to open to all possibilities and and it’s still a relatively new thing.

 

Bryn 

I mean, how often are we encouraged to go walking into a forest and darkness by ourselves Hmm. To the closest analogy I can come up with. And also for me, someone who I talked about this last weekend in my addiction to knowing things and having that as part of my identity. Underneath that is a sense of control. And 30 days in, in part was about relinquishing a lot of that control and allowing yourself to just sit back and allow the universe to meet you halfway. I think most people have got I used the analogy. When Lisa Murphy, my fiance asked me what I was doing. And I said, Remember that time we were in Sri Lanka and he couldn’t control anything because you’re in a third world and you didn’t understand the language and there’s barely any internet and this that the other end, these amazing days, we’d set an intention, these amazing things would happen effortlessly. you’d meet a man who was going in the direction you would go in and then they would introduce you to a hostile owner and then you would be where you want it to be. And you get the end of the day he just started got here. Well, of course, because Srilanka is looking after us. And then you come back home and then you just forget. And then to actually sit in a space where you sensitise your muscle to allow the universe to tell you what it is to tell you. Yes. Special. It’s

 

Tash Kelly 

incredible. It’s It’s interesting. thing with life in a completely different way. And Travelling is a great example because lots of people not have had that experience Yes, of just letting go. And suddenly these synchronicities happen and you just happen to meet this person and you go to this place and you’re taken to these amazing places that you never would have thought you’d end up. But we have this. We we have this idea that when we’re back here that days are pretty much the same. And we get a bit complacent. And we, and we get in the mind about things. Yeah. But to really to really drop into the idea of we really don’t know what’s going to happen every day, even that much just to just to open up to the to the ride every day is every day is such a ride. We all learn so much. We have so many thoughts, we meet people, we have conversations that you just don’t know that you’re going to have to even in the scope of our days as they are now to to connect more with the ride of it with the synchronicities that come in. And of course, the more you connect with the synchronicities, the more it happens as you know, and the more life starts to take over. This more kind of chimeric magical tinge to it.

 

Bryn 

So I think for me, it sort of went from 2d to 3d for the five day with all these different dimensions and colours and light. Particularly during that 30 days and since there are days when I honestly wake up in the morning thing,

 

Tash Kelly 

and that’s what I love about it too is that it can turn what you might consider a mundane. You know, when you when you start to connect with magic and synchronicity start to happen, and you and you feel your connection to life, you start to get the connection between how you’re feeling what you’re emanating what you’re thinking about, and the reflection in the world. When you start to see the connection of that. Things become really interesting. And so your life, if you’re manifesting something in your life, it doesn’t matter what you’re doing in your life, your life becomes incredible becomes a urinal and If they’re all equally phenomenal, then doesn’t matter kind of how you’re living or what you’re doing, when you’re connected in connected up,

 

Bryn 

I think, yeah, I think the powerful thing that you bring to it, which I really enjoyed was there’s so many things going on and we’ll come to it and about I’m sure there’s so many things that go on that the rational mind just so quick to sweet to one side, or fear of looking stupid or out of place, is that we never really bring it up. And yet, one of the magical things I felt you do is to hold a space where that is just totally respected. Totally normal. We can talk about anything we can go explore with our conversation. You know, like I there was one person who I remember was, I was thinking about such and such I started my coffee shift in a coffee shop. And by the end of it, somebody turned up and given me a book and the thing had happened and bastardising the example but it could just be passed off as a coincidence, but it’s holding the space where I know that that really could be a thing, and many other things. And I think from my time on the 30 days, I allowed myself to hold space to acknowledge so many other things that are going on in my life, beyond the narrow rational perception of just living in my mind, and what I now refer to as my analytical overlay, and I call it an analytical overlay because there’s all this intuition and, and sensitivities, which then have this overlay from the analytical mind from how I described But in my experience that sits across the top that sort of dial that out. And so to just put it to one side and acknowledge it and dive into the other sensitivities and intuition, and have a space where that’s acknowledged, and I was going to call you, freak, idiot, or dismiss it, cuz it’s too scary or triggering for them. That was the simple magic as well.

 

 

Yeah, you’re, you’re

 

Tash Kelly 

letting the mind go and communicating in a different way, like you say, through intuition through energy. And like I say, it’s just it’s opening up to the possibilities. It’s just going okay, well, hang on. What if it’s true, that what all of these masters have said is true? What if it’s true that we truly are eternal, that we aren’t this body that we’re not these thoughts that somehow this is some kind of illusion like this? Look, all the great masters have said? So if we’re going to take them with a grain of salt, we’ve got to at least open to the possibility Okay, what if I am consciousness and I can impact To this reality, just just what if let’s just test this out for 30 days? What if grace and love really is at the base of everything? What if I honestly can relax and let go and I’ll be guided. And quantum physics is proving you know, heart math staff that your heart is connected to this, that we are energy beings in a field of energy. And our heart has an electromagnetic magnetic field that they’ve measured up to at least five metres away from the body. Yes, that is 100,000 times stronger electromagnetically than the brain. And so and there is information flowing to and from our fields to this broader field all the time that we can feel if we tap into it and we can learn to connect and listen to that energy and be guided by that energy. But then, like you say, you have to kind of put aside your mind for a bit this tool that is revealed in our culture is gonna let that go. And like I say, like all control we’ve been taught to, to like we’re all juggling 100 balls at the same time. Trying to kind of keep trying to keep ourselves safe and figure life out. And from the minds perspective, this tiny little perspective based on what we’ve experienced what we’ve been taught what we believe, like all past stuff, and yet, there’s this field of inflammation and this possibility of who we are. That’s so much bigger than that. Which is why I’m excited about just just daring to go Okay, what if it is straight? Let’s just try it for

 

Bryn 

a month. Let’s put this T shirt on.

 

Tash Kelly 

Yeah, let’s put this on for 30 days. Let’s be as crazy as we want to be. Because it is crazy stuff that we talked about. Yeah. And let’s just test it out. That’s why it’s, I really see it as pioneering work. Wait, it is Wait, we are way serious in this realm. And but I think there’s a lot of people around the planet now that are doing this is what we’re waking up to. I think this is what this time is kind of bringing us into that I do want to go into that. Now.

 

Bryn 

We’re going to ingest this because another insight and epiphany drop that happened for me, pretty much the first day After the opening ceremony was I had a mental image, or keep it to ourselves for this but had a mental image of something occurring.

 

 

I was

 

Bryn 

like, oh, what’s going on with this mental image what’s going on with this mental image it was when I was lying in bed The next morning, I was fighting and fighting. And in my mind was guy and a little voice, quiet voice in the back of me was saying, just go with it, go with it, go with it, go with it. And then when I finally got to where this mental image was taking me out this incredible and great feeling of peace and being exactly where I needed to be. And then I realised that the thing that my my awareness or my attention, or the the scenario that my mind had latched on to, was actually a reason to take me to replace for failing. And then that little epiphany drop off Wow, how many things do we do in our life as a gateway to a feeling that we could already give ourselves in the first place by just allowing ourselves to feel that way, I think what really flip things upside down for me was I realised how conditional I’d made my life by, when I do this, then I’ll get this that will give me the feeling of such and such. And when I create the business that gives me the money, then I will feel free and etc. And that’s just one example. Or imagine how great it’s going to be when I swim to write less than I get across the finish line. I’m going to feel amazing. Why not let me have the amazing feeling now and then emanate that and then watch what drops into my life. And so it was almost like This idea of affirmations and visualisations to me almost peered like the wrong way around. It was almost I’ve started use the word, figure daily realisations. And so I try and figure themes realise, what what is the core feeling? What is the core state that I want to be in that many of my desires and drives are taking me towards? And then allow them to take me all the way to that feeling, then sit in that and allow that and then hold that as a go into the day and then see what happens. And all of a sudden, great stuff.

 

Tash Kelly 

It DOES MAGIC magic happens.

 

Bryn 

Yeah. And oh, it’s almost like that is a big chunk of the magic.

 

Tash Kelly 

Hmm. And that, like you’ve just described the whole teaching really in those couple of minutes. And that’s how it flips. How we understand life on its head, because, you know, the teaching is whatever whatever. We’re desiring it. Whatever we’re designing, we’re designing it for the same reason. That’s because we think it’s going to make us happy. We think it’s going to make us happier. And so we’re kind of trying to get this thing to make us happy. But the the flip of it is that if we can find that feeling now and emanate that now, that’s what will draw more of that feeling to ask it will bring us experiences that match that emanation, match that feeling, you have the capacity to create that feeling in our body. Now. That’s how we source ourselves. That’s how we become conscious creators by tapping into the feeling now and then emanating that, like you say, and then you go out into the world emanating that and suddenly, things show up that represent that vibration. It’s like we conjure this feeling. And you can use whatever you want, you can focus on the bear. So you can focus on a daydream or you can just think about something until you feel really good in your body. And it’s like you step out into the world and it becomes this reflection, this kind of 3d way of bringing you the X that that energetic feeling that energetic signature, what kind of things you can experience when you’re emanating that feeling? You’re, you’re magnetising it to you?

 

Bryn 

Yeah. That to me was the true essence of where to start if you want it called the workhorse of the law of attraction to occur doesn’t just think of a bike turns up at the front door. It’s what is the joy of riding a bike in the sunshine with my hair and wind through my hair and, and what’s that and then it might turn out that something else turns up like a skateboard. But either Either way, it’s locking into that feeling, and it made me realise that the mote at that point I just how conditional I’ve been with life, but how I’d been almost forcing life to meet me by coming through the eye of a needle, because I’ve made it so bloody specific. There’s no wonder things weren’t turning out for me. Trust me, it’s Oh, you got command, it’s gonna look like that. And you’ve got to be doing this and this that the other end. That’s what I want. That’s what I’m trying to attract. But I’m really trying to make all this stuff fly through the either needle and making it really fucking hard work the universe.

 

Tash Kelly 

Yeah. And what I’ve experienced is that when when I try and dream into what I think is going to be if I can dream something in I’ve always found that the dream comes in way bigger than I would have dared dream. What we’re thinking is going to make us happy is miniscule compared to what’s possible you know, we’re so we’re so blinkered by our beliefs about what’s possible that we can’t we have to open surrender and just feel into the feeling of it and let life surprise us with something better than we than we dreamed. Yes, but of course also it’s not about the it’s not about the manifestations and that’s one of the things that used to put me off law of attraction for I started was it seemed very, seemed like commercial and mechanistic, realistic and

 

Bryn 

Yes, sir meditating. Gonna be a Barbie Oh,

 

Tash Kelly 

yeah. But now I understand that it’s just it’s just another way in. It’s a spiritual path. It’s, it’s a way of practising being the source like every teaching says, changing yourself from the inside, going within becoming 100% responsible for how you’re showing up in the world. And then noticing how the world shifts, because of your shift. And when that happens, when you the moment that you truly shift yourself and see a shift in the outside world. Something, something clicks in your realisations like, okay, hang on. There is something going on here. There’s something big going on here. I’ve just, it opens your mind suddenly life. Life takes on a whole new cue.

 

Bryn 

Hmm. And the people that you need and the circumstances to facilitate that turn up and similarly the people that are not know longest serving that drop out. Yeah, she’s an interesting parliament. But yeah, I distinctly remember several times during the 30 days, and now I recognise it and myself since is that there would be some days when life would all seem quite dreamy, almost like I spent the day smoking a spliff or having a couple of drinks and it wasn’t like I was drunk or stoned, but it was just that little bit lose control. And, and the first response would be, mentally would be all I need to do. I didn’t go to the gym or do this or one of those things that would help me feel like I was back in control, but it was just not let go of that stay out of gear stay in neutral. Things were quite dreamy and, and then now equate that with things being released at quite a deeper level, which means that you Don’t feel like you’re in control as much.

 

Tash Kelly 

It’s total. It’s like a free fall. Yes. And it’s it’s such trust. And the more relaxed you are, the more trusting you are right, the more you can kind of dare to trust that’s that’s how you relax. And then as you relax and you see life, showing up differently, it sparks a little more trust or more faith so then you can relax a little more. With the idea being that we’re we’ve we’ve fully relaxed into living moment by moment which is, you know what all the Masters say as well just be in this present moment and you will be held you’ll be guided you’ll be a such a radical idea. Such a radical idea really like just moment to moment, follow my joy, follow my peaceful and my bliss. That’s my that’s my aim with this work. I mean, eventually I just want to be mad and be fully in the moment and intuitively moving into The next and just watching life unfold in front of you like some wild movie like each moment is just appearing, being created as you take the step. Yes How they describe it, which is how the teachers describe it, you know that there is only this moment, the next moment is not yet in existence. And what you are emanating now who you are now creates that helps create the next moment, the energy that you’re creating now is taken into the next moment. Like, it’s just phenomenal, phenomenal concept.

 

Bryn 

So if we bring what we’ve just talked about into what’s been happening in the last six weeks when we’ve been in lockdown, and one of the things that I have felt is that it’s almost pain on a cosmic level. Important that Everybody starts to experience a bit of this. And I’ve been introduced to this sort of idea of cancer and Satori, where tutorials where you consciously go and decide to try something. And then cancer is when that the shadow behind or the burning bridge behind forces you into doing it. And that way is expressions of, of awarenesses expressions of source and here to ultimately play our part in source recognising itself, but we have a bit of free will in there. But with but I almost feel like the free wheels within a corridor. And if you’re not aiming towards one at the end of the corridor, then the back end of the corridor will start moving you along. So with that in mind, it almost feels at the moment like this work is necessary. stuff that you introduced me to. And that by being forced to go home, gyms close, bars, close, restaurants close, come home to work can’t get in your car as much. cinemas, theatres, places of worship, all of it. You’re just left at home where we’ve been, and I resigned to come out a bit now, balancer feels like everyone’s been forced to go within and deeply reflect with it, which is part of what you were in 30 days holds. Hmm.

 

Tash Kelly 

I think a big a huge part of what’s happening is that we have we have no idea what’s going to happen next. We just we have How is this possibly going to play out and we’re bombarded with so much information one day you believe one thing and the next thing it’s kind of completely disproven or completely opposite information. We are bombarded So much information. We’re being taught how to feel for what’s true, or decide for ourselves what’s true in this sea of information where nothing feels true. We can’t find the truth in these outside sources. And so again, that’s we can’t put out faith or trust in something outside of ourselves. people haven’t, you know, we’ve had to face our fears. It’s a real initiation. This time it feels like this is this is a massive shift. Yes. And in terms of law of attraction, and I’ve heard it said that there’s been enough people on the planet for long enough that I’ve been desiring big change than this, that this has happened. This is the stuff we’ve desired this this is, this is it. And then of course, there’s all sorts of other prophecies from wases and astrology and that this is the time on the planet when we are awakening when there are big shifts and the new earth comes in. So the end of the 20 6000 year cycle, the Mayan calendar, you know from 2012, we’re supposed to come into this new feminine energy on the planet. And a lot of different things we’re coming into a certain place in the solar in the, around the Central Sun. I don’t know that much about it. I only know enough that it’s inspiring to think maybe it’s really true that we are awakening that the earth is shifting something phenomenal is happening on the planet. And I’m like, if it’s true, I want to be at the freakin forefront of that. I want to be only up there with on the frontline going. Okay, let’s that’s possible here. Like, are we in? Yeah, I want to be I want to be I want to be awakened. If that’s possible. I want to be a part of that. Because when a little tangent there can’t remember what you’re talking about. The trust? Yes. Oh, the opening this right. So we’re being where it is a time when we’re going within We’re family. Seeing our biggest fears, we’re having to get control of our fears, because there’s nothing that’s going to save us from our fears at the moment because we don’t know what’s going to happen. So we’ve had to kind of work through that. We’re coming into this new way of living a lot of people have changing jobs, or they have had to change the way they live. There’s such a big upheaval and, and so we’re practising, Okay, sit with my fears, and let that drop away. I’ve got to be more steel, I can’t feel my life with all those things you were talking about. So I’ve got to find this more peace within I’ve got to slow down. And, and then I’ve got to sit with the unknown. And I’ve got to, from my own place, decide what I’m going to read what I’m going to listen to how I’m going to move forward

 

Bryn 

who want to say

 

Tash Kelly 

who I’m going to see what I want to talk about how to manage my vibration, because I don’t want to sit in this fear. What’s the point of even talking about it when we don’t know what’s going to happen? So there’s there’s this big I feel tumultuous transformation happening for all of us that are really similar time, the same time that’s happening for the planet. And I don’t know about you, but for me, I’ve been feeling like I’ve described it as like, I feel like we’re coming that is a new realm now. It’s like I’ve gone from primary school to high school. And now I’m suddenly a really small fish in a much bigger sea and the parameters have changed, and just kind of on the edge going, Okay, how do we, how do we play?

 

Bryn 

Yeah.

 

Tash Kelly 

Yeah, this is, uh, this feels like a much bigger game. And so it’s, it’s calling us you know, I feel like there’s a calling to us to, to open to surrender to trust ourselves, to to come into the heart. Everyone’s talking about, you know, everything’s global at the moment. All the meditations are global. Things are happening on we’re connecting more around the globe, and we Everyone’s talking about being in the heart and holding your space and being the love, you know, this is the conversation at this time. So it’s it’s really exciting, really exciting time that we could be in the middle of a transformation and awakening on a massive scale.

 

Bryn 

What is why can a rain ta?

 

Tash Kelly 

It’s a good question. It’s something about knowing, getting a sense of, of who I really am, what this really is, but knowing it experientially, not being told by someone. Yeah, not being told by a religion or even law of attraction or anything I’ve read. And I want to experience if I if this is true that I’m consciousness and this is some kind of illusion and I want to experience all that if it’s true that I can create in my reality, if I can be the source and this world will shift, I want to experience that. What is it for you?

 

Bryn 

For me? It’s very much similar in the fact that it is tapping into point that you mentioned earlier on, which is, for me, it’s the, I can see almost the ending of the matrix of belief that we, previously, we have to believe something and our beliefs will shape our reality because almost like our data set, our source would come through the filter of beliefs, and then turn it into a reality. And those beliefs can be all conflicting, this and they’ll be fears and they’ll be higher level beliefs and lower level beliefs and things like that. I can just say At the moment, more and more how the beautiful synchronicity of the outside environment with decisions politicians are making and media and the economy and science as well, which is a big sum. It’s like the new religion of our modern day, you know, after all, it was scientists that said Coronavirus, could could be dangerous. So we’ll praise the high scientists and then what did we do? It’s almost like a soothsayer of ancient coming along and say, there’s going to be a big Doom on the planet on the kingdom, make everybody go inside. And so it’s the same sort of thing. But all of these things. They change from one day to another, you can’t hang your hat on them, or bet your mortgage on it like you would have done And so now it’s, I first got to the place what i thought i happen day by day I go further and further where I think I still want to believe it. And then after a while you just erode belief to it to this point, which starts off being scary. But then it takes you to a place where previously you would have an intuition, then you’d feed through it, filter it through belief, you get reality, and then you would allow yourself so knowing that the end now I think we’re flipping to, there’s nothing and so if I sit in my not knowing, I sit in the unknown. And I overcome my addiction for control. I overcome my conviction, my addiction for knowing for Yeah, for no knowing stuff. And sit there and just go I don’t know So for comfortably as long enough, and then after a while, out of that darkness will come. Your general knowing about things. I think if you allow yourself the freedom, which is what we did in the 30 days to explore, allow yourself to be I think this is how I feel today. But don’t hold don’t start giving me shit if it’s not how I feel in three days time because this is evolving. And so if we’re allowed to experience and truly embody experience, and explore, then we can open up to knowing so awakening to me, is the end of this sleepy external and reliance on the matrix of belief structure. We have people it’s kind of funny people talk about being in The matrix and escaping from the matrix and we think of it almost as like these external systems. But to me, it’s more than belief structure that we weave our way through in our own being. And by moving to a place of just knowing, and actively connecting to source, an extension of then awakening to that, then you realise, Wow, I’ve been on an amazing game of hide and seek. It’s been fun. I’ve been on this amazing game of hide and seek within this matrix of belief. As awakening for me,

 

Tash Kelly 

I love it. Oh, describe that. So to just keep sitting in the unknown, and even to be able to say, I don’t know. I mean, that’s a huge leap for us, right. That’s a huge step. In a world that’s revered, knowing, and knowledge and logic to just sit and go, actually, I don’t know. I don’t know what this is really don’t know who I am. I don’t know what’s possible. I don’t know what the next moment is going to bring even. How long can I sit in that? And what would that reveal that you’re good, so intriguing.

 

Bryn 

And I guess for anyone who’s listening to this, and then something case, sounds a bit out there for me. It never is a bit of time when it’s been so easy to flip it on its head and say, do you think what was happening beforehand, really was working for us? Now we’ve had the opportunity to sit and be quiet and look back. seldom do you have this opportunity to reflect previously it would be few days over Christmas few days. Over To a holiday, because that is time off from the business. He don’t engage with it in the same way. But this has been like a stillness, or you still have things going on but a stillness. And so then you get the opportunity to truly embody what a different way could feel like. And then you start to physically or emotionally try and re engage with what was happening previously. And then you start asking yourself, do I want to go back to that? Do I want to feed the capitalists machine? Do I want to be working Monday to Friday, nine to five? Do I want to be running backwards or forwards to the gym? Do I want to be doing this do I want to be doing? Do I want to be hanging out with people who really enjoy their conversation or anything that they’ve got? And so I think the beauty of the situation now is that it

 

 

it just provides you with Physical benchmark for everyone if

 

Bryn 

thought maybe everything wasn’t as cool as it was,

 

Tash Kelly 

and all of those things, your question is you keep going, do you? I mean, I’ve questioned everything gives us time to question everything. And also it’s made us look at our mortality. Now there’s a there’s like, well, we’re gonna die. Yes, you know, this has made a faithful companion. So it’s such a brilliant mix, everything’s paused. We’re all in it together, which I love. You know, there’s no hierarchy here we are all in this together such a unity consciousness kind of way of doing it. And then and then we’ve had to face our fears face of death, except our mortality. be forced to look at how we’re doing things in the world. It’s just such a such a beautiful opportunity, such an incredible time, really challenging and we’re all going through it individually and collect Simply this, I mean, something’s happening. There’s a shift happening.

 

Bryn 

I think that is a key part of the beauty because we’ve all we’ve all met somebody who’s been through some think that has changed their life, whether it’s been life threatening illness or an accident or a midlife crisis, or this or that, but because there are individual it’s difficult to come together. You know, I think if a previous podcast guest who’s a TV and film critic, and he was lamenting how, since the advent of Netflix, we don’t have that situation when everybody watched that episode, on a Sunday night and then everyone spoke about it the next morning and you had that common experience, you know what I mean? And so previously, these larger life experiences have been plotted against other people’s lives which are on different timescales. one another and this than the other. This. We’ve all been guided to individually or collectively, during anybody who’s you can’t say Oh, so do do do and they don’t know.

 

Tash Kelly 

And people have really come together amazing things have happened, you know, especially when it was first happening, there’s such a felt like such a community vibe and people caring and people, you know that the fact that there was no one in the streets and people were holding their distance and everything that’s us caring about each other unifying for the, for the sake of our minorities, that people most at risk in the community and just felt like, felt like there’s so much energy and impetus because we knew that we could do something together. And I feel like it’s showing us the power of that unity consciousness that we can work together and we can change things massively. We can change our lives radically, quite quickly and it’s okay, because that could continue to happen. You know, who knows what’s, what’s going to keep unfolding, but we’ve been kind of eased into this Yeah, it was dramatic enough to bring us together and make a shift, but not so dramatic that it’s terrifying. You know, it’s just enough it feels like just enough to really give us the gold give us this gold here. And yeah that that unification that I mean I’ve even I’ve, I’ve thought, Gosh, I don’t want this. I don’t want us to rush out of this. You know we want to we want to take the gold from this. keep this going. I want to keep connecting. And I know for a lot of people around here in South Korea, people are creating more gardens and there’s more. The community gardens are kind of vamped up and this this kind of things happening, people support each other supporting the restaurants and the cafes, and people are doing their bit, you know, it’s really, it’s really inspiring. People care. And when they can do something, they will. Yes, we all want it. We all want to help right. I think we all want to if there was something that we knew what we could do that would honestly help the planet, help save the planet or help change Climate or I feel like everyone would do it if we knew what it was and we, and it felt like it really would make a difference. It’s just that we’ve been helpless in the past. But over these times we’ve banded together. Yes, we can do this. We can stay a metre apart. Yes, I can help out. I can do my bit.

 

Bryn 

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, even with little things like that. I mean, at times. At times, part of me it’s been interesting. apart, a Taoist part of me has questioned it is it really is dangerous, or is it really as lethal as everything’s being portrayed? And I think for me, I comfortably got to a place where I didn’t know yes or no. But that still didn’t stop me respecting the fact that other people may well have firmly been in the yes camp, and other people may firmly have been in the no camp. And in doing that, I was still mindful to respect distancing from other people. Because I didn’t want to be in the place where I was triggering them to be fearful, even though I was unsure either way. But I didn’t want if somebody It was almost like for me, I could feel whether, if somebody was still very much yet yes, this, this jam could come and take me at any time. And if I get too close to you, it could jump off you and onto me. And I can understand how people got there. And, and if it turns out I could feel it in others, but I didn’t want to impinge their social distance because I didn’t want to cause some Distress because I could almost feel it. I think part of that was also you talked about the heart having this five to eight metre radius, or other things I have loved about isolation and social distancing. It’s been the fact that there’s been less people in my grid. So I’ve been able to clean it out and sit with me and my energy credit Without the influence of other people’s nervous systems and

 

Tash Kelly 

yeah, like I say it’s just this just more space, more stillness, not no parties to go to no pub to go to no restaurants to go out to. It’s just more space and stillness. And

 

Bryn 

so what have been some of the the, the sort of biggest things that may have come up for you, and from a contrast point of view or stories that you realise, oh my god.

 

Tash Kelly 

Well, I had to face some of my deepest fears that was pretty big, and move through those and and it’s a big deal to move through your biggest fears. Which, you know, on the other side of that is interesting. And then at the moment I’m I’m really experiencing, I have been experiencing a kind of emptiness like not knowing what the next step is. And in this not knowing and the stillness and letting go and not knowing what’s going to happen moment to moment, I’ve had the space and time to let everything go. And so even these things I’ve been so passionate about that it’s kind of the passions dropped away. But I haven’t been doing the 30 days I haven’t been really doing my dreaming, I’ve been much more what I would call like the 3d kind of world getting caught up in. And I just find that I find that really interesting because it’s part of the trust to let everything go. Even those beliefs that I’ve been exploring for years and these big dreams I’m holding even to let those go. Because I saw I experienced that one of my dreams that I’d be holding Onto, it came through in a massive at like bigger than it was it was a worldwide thing that I was only very partially involved in. But it was definitely my dream it was the all the elements of it, but it was so much bigger. That happened like a month or two into this whole thing. And so for me, it’s been this recognition that that it’s like something else really does. something much bigger than me is involved here. I’ve dreamed into things. And they like a vision like a prophecy feels more like that, that I’ve seen it happen. And then it happens bigger than I’ve seen it and and so it’s like for all of us, we’re being called to trust and on a much bigger scale. And

 

Bryn 

I’ve got any sort of tangible examples to bring it to life

 

 

of how to

 

 

what you’re talking about. of the dream that came in. Yes.

 

Tash Kelly 

Yeah, so my dream so I do dreaming which is conscious grading. Yeah. And so the teacher teaching is that we can that we are vibrational and that this reality is vibrational. This is backed up by quantum physics. Of course, there’s no not really any such thing as atoms aren’t physical. They’re the vortices of energy, everything is energy, their energy beings and field of energy. So this this teaching is about that this realm is being created. That we are co creating this reality together. This this vibrational reality, everything is vibration, sound, sight colours, it’s all vibration, hitting us. And we’re interpreting it and creating it into this thing. So we’re in this vibration, vibration field. But we are also multi dimensional beings. So there are other vibrational fields as well. And when we go within, we can tap into, these are the realms if you like. So when we’re going into what I call the dreaming, which is visualisation, or meditation, and we allow ourselves to be taken on a journey into what brings us our highest joy, like what would be at the most exciting thing we could imagine in our worlds, if we’re creators, and if we can go in and visualise something that would be incredible to experience. So you’re tapping into a dream of vision and what they say is that you’re receiving that vision, you’re receiving that dream, you’re not even necessarily creating it. You’re just Going within totally surrendering again and allowing something to come through you. Because we’re multi dimensional, we’re connected to our higher selves, and we become the channels,

 

Bryn 

yes, of

 

Tash Kelly 

information of visions of energy. And we anchor that energy here in this dimension. Yeah. So we can go to higher dimensions, if you want to call it that. I mean, these are just all terms, who knows what it really looks like, but it gives our brain some way of kind of understanding. It’s a framework to understand Yeah. And so we can go within tap into these other feelings, these visualise visions, and then anchor that energy into this reality. And so what you were talking about in the 30 days you were doing it you would get up in the morning and you’d find that place within you and then you step out into your day and then crazy synchronicities happen in the day. So I’m doing that I’m just doing it at a at a bigger level. I guess it’s a more expansive level going for them. What’s my biggest game or the the biggest thing I can imagine happening and there have been a few things So, I’ve talked with you about for like big things, and they’ve all come through, blown my mind way bigger than I dreamed. And so this one dream I had, which actually I spoke about on the first podcast with you. Yeah, which was a stadium event. So a stadium full of conscious creators. And we would have the top spiritual leaders, indigenous elders, with their prophecies of this time of awakening, you know, the top top, say scientists, and you know, music and it would all be about we were coming together to basically help heal the planet and dream in a new earth together. And always in my dream, at the end of this, there was a portal, a portal would open up. And I thought that this dream would happen. I was visualising it for happen for it to happen early this year, on the second of the second 2020, or the fourth of the fourth 20 But it was such a huge dream right and all of last year it’s in the back of my mind I’m holding on to the stream but I’m not doing anything and the message is just keep relaxing. keep letting go and trust just handover. We don’t have to make these dreams happen. They all we have to do is tap into the dream and be the vision like hold the vision, hold the emanation, see it happening. And then life will do the rest. So it was you know, last year was just about really the whole time especially as it was in the back of my mind because early this year, it was coming up quick. And not I thought nothing was being done. So anyway, as it is with these stories, right there is such a weave that I could never share in this this little summary data point. There’s so many points it’s such a complex weave that is incredible. And all you can do is live it you can’t you can’t describe this stuff unless you actually just live it how amazing it is and you’re living it. But basically the the weekend of the fourth of the fourth 2020 was was the second date that I had in mind. Turns out that because also when I dreamed into this dream, right, it felt much bigger than the stadium it was I always thought maybe it’ll be like stadiums worldwide or something because the dream seemed bigger, but I couldn’t comprehend it any bigger than a stadium that felt doable for me. Yeah, that was huge. But on the fourth of the fourth 2020, what ended up happening was that there was a worldwide meditation for to help heal the planet and to dream in a new earth and they had the top scientists and indigenous elders and wisdom keepers and, and music and everything I dreamed in. They had as a worldwide meditation. I hosted one here in Perth, to be part of it, but it happened in many different places around the world. And it happened on a portal. So there was this portal as part of the reason I did it on the fourth of the fourth. There was this big portal opening. My friend who has a channel, drew me a picture and gave it to me three days before All of he had seen the crumbling of the old world and the coming in of the New World and Me standing in front of a portal, he had no idea that that was my dreaming that was coming up. So three days before I you know, I got that picture from him, and then suddenly understand this. So it was it was like, I can’t tell you how much that moment changed me because until then, I had been very much involved in all of my trainings. But this one I knew it wasn’t you know, you get all the sides I knew it was partly my dream. Yes, but I didn’t have to do a thing. And it was way bigger and the constant message for the last year had been just let go. Just trust that it’s gonna happen just and you know, my ego. I didn’t get to do this thing. Yes, done like that. humble. Kind of, yes, this humbling for me of Okay, I can dream I can dream in And

 

 

so

 

Tash Kelly 

it was profound for me to be a part of that event and feel like this is my dream way bigger than I dreamed I didn’t have to do a single lift a finger for it, who could have known that the old world would have fallen apart on this day and this new world has been born. And so the power of the recognition that we have the power to tap into this, this dream, and that’s what I feel like, is my mission now is to just keep holding the vision and be the vision and trust and completely surrender, like we’re talking about, really, I don’t have to do anything except dream it and to help other people access that as well that okay, what kind of New Earth Do we want now? What, how? How do you want to see it? If we’re conscious creators and we’re awakening? How do we how do we want to embody and emanate this new Earth What’s coming in? Yeah, and it’s hard it’s um, you know, when I tell these stories I feel like they just it’s such a personal experience. It’s such a personal awakening I don’t know if you can ever really share how

 

 

I mean I could journey all but

 

Bryn 

because of your knowing

 

Tash Kelly 

it’s mine knowing and you know, words don’t ever teach and you will never believe the synchronicities of that until you are in it. You dream that you feel it, you go on the journey of life takes you on this crazy shamanic journey. And yeah, so, so that’s what I mean by for me, there’s a huge surrender. It’s like, Okay, how much can I truly surrender into the idea that I don’t have to do anything. I literally like every master has said I have to be it. Moment to moment. And like I say, it’s kind of terrifying in a way because it’s, it’s full, let go of everything and my ego of how it’s going to look and what I’m going to do, I don’t know what I’m going to do next. I don’t know like maybe I’ll just maybe what we’ve done is enough in our life, right? And we’re just here now to, to be the love and live simply and live humbly and live as we want the new world to be and stop striving. This is the time when they say we’re awakening to the heart to where we we become the feminine surrendered magnetising to us. The last 5000 years in the Mayan calendar have been about masculine creating outward, yes, but now it’s About going inward and fully surrendering and trusting yourself.

 

 

Was it a bit of chaos,

 

Tash Kelly 

transformation chaos.

 

Bryn 

Huh, it’s thought so very interesting because on a very even on a physical level, one of the things I found is because I haven’t had to get up and get up and you know, on the shirt, get in the car and drive to work and things like that. I’ve allowed myself to even on some of the weekdays, not set an alarm started to find that I wake up sort of five to 10 minutes after sun as sunrises come up and allowed myself to sleep the required amount of sleep according to my body, not my mind. And I’ve I was chatting to my dad the other day on FaceTime explained to him I’ve been doing more what was required from my body’s point of view. And from my minds point of view. And I first started playing with this, I said there were three influences in my life last year, the second one, the first one was learning to tremoring and letting your body do the thing that it needs to do to release the tension. So I’ve been playing with this for a little while, but not to this extent. And, you know, when I was in my late teens, early 20s, I could sit on the side of a bed and go, I need to be up at 427 tomorrow. I’d wake up at 427 it’d be time to go I would never set a lot. And then somewhere along the way, I I out thought that and so now what I found myself doing is sleeping, the amount of sleep Need to return what my body’s telling me to do. And really embodying with that. And one of the things that I would now like to investigate through the podcast is by probably talking to some doctors and what have you, and people who might be playing with this is made me realise that like, with the control, my body’s got all this infinite knowledge and awareness and wisdom and just magic

 

 

yet.

 

Bryn 

I don’t really experience it because I’ve got this mental overlay, which is trying to control and do life all the time this analytical overlay. And so, if we were to say that the controls control over the body and during life was generally 97 98% mental and only two or 3% tapping into your inner, inner body. And that only change when you become like really ill and the body goes well enough for this. We’re shutting down until you pay some attention that you pay some attention and you ignore it, you go back on and you drive it. I realise like, a lot of some of my physical endeavours and achievements have been out of the mind. Nothing just been brutal on the body. So now I’m starting to wonder is, if we could, even if we went to 5050 50%, body driven 50%, mental German. What does that start to look like? What does that really start to look and feel like? And it’s one of the things I’d like to investigate in the podcast going forward. And I started to chat someone the other day and they’re like, So was that mean? Like lining Battle die. Oh no, maybe some guys, but then will we not doing any exercise? Well, maybe some days you wake up and the body would just want to run. And you find yourself putting trainers on running for three hours because the body just wanted to run, or the body just wanted to lie in ice cold water, or the body wanted to go and play in the kids playground. Or the body wanted to go for 20 kilometre walk, or the body wanted to sit still. Not in bed, but sit still. And just keep your eyes open and look. And just But again, it’s that letting God

 

Tash Kelly 

radical How can you trust that it’s so different letting go letting go.

 

Bryn 

This is not even like the higher energies in the universe. This is letting go to yourself on the faculties in the kingdom. You’ve been blessed with the hearing. 3d reality. It’s amazing talk or your body. And, and, you know when we consider things like epigenetics, genetics being switched on and off because of the blood because of the blood that they’re in and the Bloods impacted by the hormones and things that you put into it from your thoughts. Well, and at the time when you know, immunity is key, everybody’s, it’s been easy for the media to talk about germs been on the outside, come in together, which means you’re not enough. So I read underneath some sub context, but to really trust in yourself, trust in your body, trust in your immune system. Trust that your body’s gotta let it do. You know, I think females may go through that when they give birth. Before that’s become kind of medicalized to a degree,

 

Tash Kelly 

absolutely, females aren’t taught to just trust their bodies during birth, you know,

 

Bryn 

and so, but just that let go and just even what you know, so I’ve done like a 10th of the exercise I would normally do is felt alright. And again, Lisa, my fiance, they said, Now you seem more Fit for Life at the moment. I was like, Oh, I like that. That seemed to sit. And because yeah, I wake up I go for a walk on the beach. Not necessarily quick feature in the in the ocean, and there’s grounding, and I know there’s stuff going on there and can’t quite put my finger on it. And rather than looking for science and explanation, I go with what I’m driven to do. Some days it is a swim. Some days. It’s just a walk. Some days, it’s a run some days. It’s Nothing and then it’s like well how do I feel experience during after that, that was really required

 

Tash Kelly 

such a different way to, to feel ourselves through feel our way through life rather than think our way through. And it is all about trust. And this concept of you know, if you fast your body will naturally start healing Yes, it’ll heal all sorts of things when you give it the right environment, it will do its thing you’re not doing it it’s there’s some intelligence in your body that does it. And similarly on these on these deeper dimensions, when we connected to the field, like they even talked about this, people talking about that our DNA, have all this information and we know what to do now. Like we literally are waking up and there’s nothing we have to do except surrender into it and trust and trust it like this something that knows and that’s so radical when we have been totally disconnected from a sense of true trust in ourselves in our body in anything beyond our bodies. You know, we we’ve, we’ve not taught to trust ourselves. In fact, we’ve taught to not listen to ourselves and seek some kind of outside authority and but how can you even how do you even find it authority to trust when you don’t trust yourself? It’s just this mad Yes, it’s a mad game and so now we’re learning. We’re going to come back and because there’s lots of you know, indigenous people talk about this time of, we’re going to love ourselves and be the love and but even to do that, it’s like trust to, to just to trust that you can just go in and be loved and that’s actually going to make a difference. Where we are opening to these bigger concepts, bigger realms and and it takes a letting go like I say,

 

Bryn 

away, I think it might

 

 

I start to fail. Just how much of our sovereignty we’ve

 

Bryn 

happily given away or tricked ourselves into giving away, suddenly gone nowhere. It stayed there all the time. In this matrix of belief, through our senses, we have become so focused focused on the external that has provided the feedback loop into the beliefs through the senses out to the external back through the senses, in and out, and then a now and that we’ve been forced to almost almost feel always got this visualisation of all our senses being pulled out into the outside world here. And now all the senses are coming back in, close your eyes and you can see things. You can start to hear things in the silence that you didn’t necessarily hear before. has been to feel things that haven’t been out felt feel. whilst you’re not physically touching the things around you. It’s like your senses are almost starting to go inwards. And and in there you suddenly tap into your inner knowing and your sovereignty and the fact that I exist and you don’t need to say much more than that. Nevermind purpose. Never mind.

 

Tash Kelly 

Yes the start of trusting yourself noting yourself. Starting to listen to yourself through yourself in a new way,

 

Bryn 

gauging with this incredible body, which doesn’t just do Stuff that gives you receives information that’s

 

Tash Kelly 

constantly receiving information through the heart.

 

Bryn 

The trillions of cells. Yeah.

 

Tash Kelly 

From this field of information that is chock us with information and energy, like wild, wild frontiers, and where we’re in the midst of an awakening happening.

 

Bryn 

Yeah.

 

Tash Kelly 

Anybody evolution in human consciousness?

 

Bryn 

Absolutely. And this little worried it, it’s little wonder that our population is blown out to 7 billion people. Because if you had the choice, where would you leave right now? Right here on it. As this is blowing out?

 

Tash Kelly 

Yeah, and I mean, I don’t know. But I’ve heard that Apparently older brothers and sisters across the cross the universe are watching you know this. This is a this is a big this is an unprecedented This is the birth of a new earth and new human consciousness and they are watching with bated breath for like this is it. This is the wildest ride in consciousness. And it’s only those that are here aware of it listening to this kind of stuff, who have done the work over lifetimes to get to really go on the ride. Tonight seems like there’ll be a lot that don’t even know what’s happening, right? It’s kind of carrying on but for those of us who are in the midst of it, in the depths of it, it’s just

 

 

bonkers bonkers bonkers.

 

Bryn 

So you in a place of still sitting still Are you getting to the place of wanting to start to do some Yeah, work out in the world?

 

Tash Kelly 

I’m interested to ask you because often what I find is wherever I’m at, it feels like other people are in a similar kind of energy. And which would make sense, right? If you’re a conscious creator, and you’re the centre of your universe things yeah, reflect. So it’s just been the last the last few days actually where I felt like something coming in. And what it feels like is it’s a calling to, okay to declare who I am. What am I here to do? What is what do I declare as true for me? And how am I going to live by that? And for me, even just this today speaking to you today, I mean, I haven’t felt fully back in the I’ve been like, you have been swirling. So even to agree to this and just trust that, that this is everything happens at the perfect moment. And so even me declaring this to you now is such a gift. Go Okay, yes, you Is that I do declare that I am here to be a part of the shifting consciousness. That’s why I’m here. That’s my highest excitement. I cannot imagine anything more exciting. And so I will be a part of that. And I will trust whatever I’m called to do as part of that. But that’s, that is my calling somehow to, to share this message, to dare boldly to speak it to dare to even say it like okay, we’re conscious creators we’re dreaming and a new earth let’s vision together Let’s dream it together. Unity Consciousness is coming in this is, you know, a shift a massive shift that we’re now a part of, and it takes every one of us murmur Malik be be willing to be that to take that leap. I don’t know I don’t know what that looks like. But I know from past experience that all I have to do is declare it and then life will start to go well window, the window start or not But I felt stirrings and it feels big, but I don’t know what it is. And I think it’s just, it’s just within me right always. What do I What am I going to believe? How am I going to freefall? How do I want to live my life? As boldly as I can? Am I am I you know, to be prepared to fail to be prepared to be wrong, but to just leap for the for the ride of it? And to be mixing with people who are I mean, this stuff is so thrilling to me. so thrilling. How about you are you feeling something shifting last?

 

Bryn 

I have felt it’s been subtle. It’s not.

 

 

It’s not

 

Bryn 

mass action, mail, create, build mass action type

 

 

stuff. NGS, I’m still quite still.

 

Bryn 

What I am finding is a desire to move away from being a quiet facilitator, almost an observer, a watcher, a listener, which we’ve done in the podcast, which is why moving to this, there’s going to be more of these sorts of conversations coming in the podcast. And probably slightly more energetic energetically strategic listening in the future. But I feel that there is a signal, a post an energy, a sound, I’ve been really connecting with the fact that there is a sound that’s going to come from the tamela and I don’t know how to describe it, but that there is a energy that is starting to come out and become the beacon. Yeah. That I know I am

 

Tash Kelly  

similar energy

 

Bryn 

and just

 

 

yeah. Sorry.

 

Bryn 

And that Yeah. what that actually means. Yes, there will be continued to podcast and things Yes, I will continue to offer my real legacy private offering. There’s a part of me that wants to set up little exploration groups. Deep Dive with some people into something, not to coach not to mentor not to, not to lead just to co explore co experience certain things but There is like a almost a big sound that’s on its way into emanation.

 

Tash Kelly 

Yeah. I feel like that’s what is happening for everyone. Or everyone that’s hearing the clarion call. Yeah, everyone that’s that’s feeling it’s just this Okay, something’s calling me I don’t quite know what it looks like yet but all I can feel at this end is like you say to shine, something about shining our light something about our passion, what we’re called to do what? And, and people just not knowing yet it’s like we’re in this Limbo, but it’s coming. It’s coming and, and I love how you said that. It’s not about teaching. You know, we all know we’re in this together. It’s just we’re doing it because you’re called to write your passion because and so we’re unsure which

 

Bryn 

one person may have a slightly more experienced view to share with another to share whether that Work together.

 

Tash Kelly 

Yeah, we’re all in it together. We’re following our passion. None of us really know. But we’re taking some wild leaps of trust.

 

Bryn 

And this fertile ground for upon which conversations like this will settle.

 

Tash Kelly 

Did john, I just gotta say, I’ve definitely experienced that I’ve absolutely had a knowing that there is something at work. There’s something that creates all our meetings or something that there’s something synchronistic there’s some divine wave

 

 

going on.

 

Tash Kelly 

And, yeah, all the near death experiences or I’ve got that same story. They come back, go like that divine wave perfection of everything. It’s all about love. So, something’s weaving at all.

 

Bryn 

Yeah, we’re seeing a lot of endings. Trying to match your one side feels like perfect place to end.

 

Tash Kelly 

Thank you very much.

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