#155 Happiness is an inside job – A conscious conversation with Garry Ryan

This week I enjoyed a conscious conversation with previous guest Garry Ryan, breathwork and shamanic healer.

Garry shares how, through his work, he views the world through an ‘energy lens’ – whether love or fear, is this mine energy or has someone imprinted it upon me – which really helps to provide a framework for understanding life on a deeper level and make more conscious choices.

The conversation is deep and varied and we focus on a number of areas including the victim/persecutor/helper drama triangle that is put upon us and enslaves us, questioning whether the voice in your head is really yours, the potential role of the moon in all of this and the role of the human DNA design to bring peace to the universe.

Garry has a fantastic view and perspective on ‘doing life’ from many angles and I super enjoyed this conversation as you’ll gather listening to me.

For the listener, you’ll again go on a fantastic journey of viewing what may well be happening from another point of view and in the process have your own horizons and beliefs challenged.

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Bryn 

This week I enjoyed another great conscious conversation with previous guests Garry Ryan breathwork and shamanic healer. Garry shares how through his work, he views the world through an energy lens. To give you an example, whether that’s love or fear, or is this energy mine or somebody imprinted upon me, which really helps to provide a framework for understanding life on a deeper level, and to help make more conscious choices. The conversation is super deep and super varied. And we focus on a number of areas, including the victim, persecutor, helper, drama triangle that is put upon us and then slaves as whether the voice in your head is really yours. The potential role of the moon in all of this and the role of human DNA designed to bring about peace to the universe. Gary has a fantastic view and perspective on doing life. from many different angles, and I super enjoyed this conversation as you’ll gather listening to it. For the listener, you’ll again go on a fantastic journey of viewing what may well be happening from another point of view. And in this process, have your own horizons and beliefs challenged. So enjoy Garry.

 

Bryn 

Hello, and welcome back to WA Real. I’m your host, Bryn Edwards. For the second week running. We’re going to dive into another conscious conversation with a previous guest today. Our Welcome back, Garr Ryan. Gary, welcome back to the show.

 

Garry Ryan 

Hey, Bryn, it’s good to be here. It’s been a period of time that I have no idea about

 

Bryn 

it has probably been about 18 months since we last spoke.

 

Garry Ryan 

Wow.

 

Bryn 

And for those of you didn’t catch that show, Gary talks a lot about breathwork. And one of the biggest residing things I remember you saying during that conversation which is stuck with me was the analogy of your On your own bus. Are you sitting on the back looking out the window? Or you’re at the front driving? That’s right. Because if you’re not driving who is driving? Maybe the childlike version of yourself?

 

Garry Ryan 

Absolutely. You just want a lollipop. And there’s the

 

Bryn 

so and have you been diving into stuff other than breathwork or expanding that or

 

Garry Ryan 

I have been diving into me many things because you

 

Bryn 

do a lot of shamanic work in the background as well. We didn’t really talk about I do that

 

Garry Ryan 

so much. I, the way I see my work is and the way I work with my work is energetic, everything is energy. Yeah. sound vibration, energy, yes. And so on even thoughts and so what I’m doing is providing a space for a person to feel safe. I go, what are we doing? And how are we going to do it? And that’s my question to source spirit whatever it is you want to call it. Yeah, myself and through the many skills that I’ve picked up over the years we have a little conversation exactly what we’re doing here and this is the this is the best This is one of the one of the best ways to do healing work is to sit in conversation and because of the comfortability and the relaxation that a person gets and I almost I bring I kind of drift the conversation into where it’s going side I’m feeling the energy of a I’m looking at them their body language their reactions the knowing for me it ends up mostly as a knowing feeling me know in the body when the body Yeah, it’s just the nature of the mind. Ah, There’s two there’s two distinct things in my mind. So I know when it’s my mind chatter. Yeah, and it’s rubbish because it’s actually in a specific place. I can feel it. Yeah. And when it’s my intuition or my, my divine direction, or whatever that is, for, for me, it’s it’s my god source. It’s my inspiration. It’s my intuition coming through my, this is my knowing feeling. That piece of information comes into me in a different space in a different place. I can feel it feels physical to me in difference. Yes. And the voice sounds different. And so that helps me to ask the right questions. And I’m picking up the key words will people give away so much when they speak? We do is all there.

 

Bryn 

Yes, sentence construction,

 

Garry Ryan 

word selection. What they don’t say

 

Bryn 

that don’t say the body language that goes with

 

Garry Ryan 

everything. So from that, I can find the piece which invariably, and almost certainly will end up getting back into childhood. And then we have to deal with the recent breakup of a relationship first because that’s at the top. But underneath that there’s usually some father mother issue or something, something something, you know, around their childhood. And, and I can see this, I can see the thread going back and they don’t to the person, it doesn’t look related at all. And that’s one of the reasons why I feel it’s so important. When it’s a big issue for person, which they may not even realise it’s such a big issue that comes up so I didn’t even know that was a thing. I just thought that was and, and you know, they’re pouring out tears and they’re going and they’re releasing and it’s used and Body shaking, you know, and is it worked and can go to Yeah. And but that’s released that’s when they are in that space. That’s fantastic because they’re having a massive shift. And and also, so then I can see all those threads and I just all I’m doing is guiding them. They don’t work. I and I asked him permission Do you want to? So this conversation this healing I did keeps coming into my mind so I’ll talk about that as a as an exit as a real example. So I had a friend staying up here. She’s needed some space for a few days, right? She’s been up here before she knows it’s a lovely space and I look come chill out. But um,

 

Bryn 

so we run the rolling hills and get you down.

 

Garry Ryan 

That’s right. That’s gorgeous in this land. Man. This land is so willing to help people unwind and, and heal or calm or find peace within themselves. It’s Really over the 18 knots I really come to appreciate and still, that’s growing about how incredible these places and how beneficial it is for humanity for me, for everyone for all of us, because we’re all in this together to grow and expand. So we went for a little walk up the beanie for dying off or something went for a walk up into the bush. And we’d had a couple of conversations around parents stuff and some of the things that were going on for us. And so we’re just sitting up there just driving out when you think this is the right place, and we walked up into a little place I know up there and surrounded by pristine bush land. No traffic noise. You know, and you know how it is. I’m sure you know how this is when you sit silently for a while. All of a sudden, there’s a lot of birds, insects, song from the trees of the wind. There’s all Have these other sounds that are actually there that we don’t connect to? Because we’re plugged in, and we’re walking around the park, and we’re not really taking notice of what’s going on yet. Because we’re all out there instead of and so we’re sitting there and just having a conversation and over a period of maybe half an hour. Just let it down a little path into a place you haven’t discovered before about some stuff about one of the parents and it was that easy. It was a conversation. Yes. And just holding that place and and also, what I, how I work is, what is it that that person needs, I don’t have a formula. I don’t go semantics, the only wide berth works anyway. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. There is no one way for everybody has their what they need.

 

Bryn 

Or for that particular point

 

Garry Ryan 

for that particular point in time. It’s always it’s always very Different. If there’s one consistency, it’s all right. There’s two consistencies, a, I do my very best to ensure that a person feels really safe and held. Yeah. And that in that space they can trust to speak about things that they know, they would never tell anyone, because that’s where we need to go. And to work really softly with that, you’re in the end. And I can go, I can go as hard as I need to, I can get from one to 10 in an instant, if that’s what that person needs. But most of the time, 99% of the time, it’s a really gentle process and there’s so much power in that. And it’s only it’s only that big push anyway, usually just just to get because they’re stuck on a place and it’s just given him a reality check in a way to go and a choice of going. Well, do you want to keep that or not? Because this is what it looks like. Does that feel true right now? Oh shit. Yes, that’s my life. Yeah, that hurts. Yeah. Well, do you want to keep it or not? And it’s a yes or no, they want to keep it that’s fine. Because then my next step is great if you want to keep that just understand this to be normal whinging about it. Yeah to be normal complaining because they’re making a conscious choice about that behaviour. And those people said, Okay, let me think about that.

 

 

Yeah.

 

Garry Ryan 

They really does because you know, you’re gonna it just it just puts it all out in front. It’s not it’s not it’s just the truth as I feel it’s the truth. I feel it’s the truth because it’s it’s Is this your truth? It’s the question goes to them. Yes, it is this you know what, shit you’re right, because we all know.

 

Bryn 

Oh, we know where all the answers. It’s just the bravery of God. into it.

 

Garry Ryan 

That’s right. Which goes back to what do you work with someone because I’ve got my own experiences and I can help people see this stuff from my experience because I’ve been through certain things in my life. Yeah, and I’ve had these different experiences. So again, an aspect of it. And I really think it’s very healthy for people to go, let’s say you come to me we do a healing. It’s a really big one there’s some big childhood stuff comes up so I can do all the energetic work I can help you change the belief pattern, we can shift all that stuff. We can move out entities, which is just another energy that’s not probably being very nice to you. Yeah. But you’ve picked up along the way when you picked up along the way and and we’ve agreed to and all that sort of stuff. But sometimes there are actually any entities that are holding a a piece of us that we weren’t able to hold through a traumatic event and the other one And I think are quite easy sometimes a little bit sticky because they’ve been there for a while.

 

Bryn 

Yeah. But there was like a protective layer

 

Garry Ryan 

there. They’ve just been holding something for us. And that’s, it’s not entity isn’t good or bad. It’s just, it’s just a it is, you know,

 

Bryn 

yeah. The purpose now it’s gone past its shelf life.

 

Garry Ryan 

And that’s it. Thank you very much for everything, even the really dark shadowy ones that are really not fun. But even then even knives serve the purpose and even in many ways they’ve kept us alive and giving us some sort of protection. So let them go do the work that’s necessary put as much energy into it as we need to live in a free will universe. You know, we have the right to say yes or no. And it must be obeyed because we live in a free will universe. And so, so then that so then that goes and then we start to be able to make choices freely of what we actually really want. What I really want in my life without the influence of my parents, the church, society, the government, bla bla bla bla bla bla bla bla what we’re talking about this morning, who am I really? And what is my identity Really? Is it all the stuff that’s being pasted onto me? Or is it something else? Exactly. And our unconscious drivers come from that the things that we make decisions about in everyday life that we aren’t even aware of. And so through my session with her up in the hills, she got to see some things and she got to like gas and stuff. And you know what, she really loves a dad that’s not about that, oh, it’s just about the behaviour of him because of his stuff, projected onto her

 

Bryn 

at some point in time,

 

Garry Ryan 

at a point in time, so we’re working with not her or not you now not that person right now. I work with that person back then, on that timeline as a child, because as an adult, we all go, Oh, yeah, but I had this and dadadada da Yes is free pass you’re justifying it. You’re giving him a free pass. It’s not about that. Yeah. So it has the work go back into I. I’m very good at taking people back into their emotional point at five or six or prenatal wherever it is or mass life. That’s the place to work with, because that’s the timeline that needs to work. That’s where the energy is held. And we clear that

 

Bryn 

what’s coming up for me right now is listening to you. It’s almost like for somebody who can’t quite get it, it’s almost like, you know, when you’ve got a knot in a muscle, and you have to go and see a trigger point massive

 

 

Yeah, and they just

 

Bryn 

put the thumb on the trigger. Yep. Trigger, trigger the knot. And then after a while, muscle just lets go. The oxygen flows through. The blood flows through all of it comes through and it’s like ah, Holy crap, that muscle that’s been so tight, it’s just let go. I mean, you just you’re doing it on a energetic level within somebody being energetic being.

 

Garry Ryan 

And that’s that’s not there it is. Take it out, do it as gently as possible. And then the next step is calcium assists, because you’ve got muscle memory, this stuff’s in your muscle, and actually the deep stuff goes into your bones and crystalline system. Get somebody who can work slowly into your body on that level. That’s how we that’s a bit introduced the idea that our body is almost our subconscious at times.

 

Bryn 

Stuff locked in the fascist stuff locked in the muscles.

 

Garry Ryan 

Yeah, definitely is and can then go into yoga and then go and see a different look. And so if because if it’s a big thing, you’ve got a lot of different aspects and why is that this is going to come in the universe is gonna go. Yeah, but you haven’t looked at it from this angle? Yeah. Oh god, oh, like a nice, cheap man like 15 years ago I started this journey and and I’m working with my friend in Melbourne because we’re doing a big women’s workshop at the end of the year around women who have lost a child through pregnancy in any form because there’s no there’s no real sacredness, and it’s still a birth, whether it’s an abortion or termination or whatever it is, yeah, that child was gone. It’s a birth. And there’s no sacredness in that in Western culture. So anyway, we’re putting a workshop together and that that’s a whole other amazing was a demonstration inspiration. Two o’clock in the morning. Yeah. Oh, I need to do this. Oh, my God, this is it. This is the next level of stuff. And a big component of it is breaking the silence. Yes, there’s been so much silence around that. Yes. And But anyway, digress Where? It’s all connected somewhere. What was I talking about? So, I think I lost the thread. Now the

 

Bryn 

ladies workshop,

 

Garry Ryan 

the women’s workshop. Yeah.

 

Bryn 

I’m working with your colleague there. I remember

 

Garry Ryan 

I remember and so yeah, yeah, yeah. What? So we’ve been, we’ve been friends for a long time. But this period as you were sharing and your personal life, because we’ve been working together, a friendship has really shifted and we’ve had to be really open about what comes up for us and little triggers and things and so well, because we’re both doing energy healing work. We do the energetic healing side of it, but we also talk about it and go Yep, that was just yeah, I’m feeling some stuff around that George. So yeah. I think we need to do something about that. And if I feel there’s something around that I feel from her, I tell her, and vice versa. So the the friendship is just growing exponentially because of it because you’re being open and, and having the conversation because we’ve got a desire to work together. It feels like we’re meant to work together, and to really bring the benefits for the people that are going to come to us and work with us, then we need to shift as much as possible out because for many reasons, but also there’s a great benefit for people to see a man and a woman who are not in a relationship as an intimate relationship. Working together. Yes. Well, regardless of whether we’re in an intimate relationship working together in in real harmony, yeah, and balance, and for that to be seen by men and women because there is a time transmission in that that brings, that will bring helping, I mean, it’s in its own way. Hmm. And so we’re aware of that. But we also want to grow ourselves. We also want to be open. We also want to expand our friendship. We just want to grow, you know, we just want to be the best bring the best of this that we can. And so we’re, you know, two weeks ago, a week and a half ago. She mentioned something a little while ago, and

 

 

oh, my God,

 

 

mother stuff.

 

Garry Ryan 

My mother stuff. Am I doing? Am I done on this? Yeah.

 

 

But

 

Garry Ryan 

I woke up four or five in the morning, I’d been thinking about it. I was just it’s not like it was a big thing, but it was. It was. It was it was definitely impacting my relationships with women. How I saw relationships with women and and Even bringing a woman into my life. And so I got up at five in the morning I did some writing put fire on what’s his feeling into her writing stuff? And it was I was actually just climbing I was claiming back my rights. My sovereignty my

 

Bryn 

Yeah,

 

Garry Ryan 

my letting go of i was growing into being an adult was letting go of my mother guiding me and telling me what to do and playing that old record record and then I’ll victim role of the victim is I want somebody to do it for me. Yeah.

 

Bryn 

mum used to do that’s what

 

Garry Ryan 

mum used to do. So it was great. Like, it’s not my friend’s full sheet I think so. Yeah.

 

 

percent and it was it was

 

Garry Ryan 

like, tangible, tangible difference in it for myself. Yeah, even The more I do this work I can work I can do myself for myself. This work we can all do for ourselves. It’s knowing when really knowing when actually need some assistance with this, or I think I can do this myself. Have a go at it and go, Yeah, like, I’ve got Alison to help me with some stuff the other day, it was actually a dial. So after I did that little clearing here at home, I was going over to their place and was halfway over and I just got this massive headache, kind of like a headache, but I knew what it was it was there was stuff trying to move and it was all just caught up in my system and just so much, so much moving and just couldn’t shift. And so I did some work on it myself to clear but I just couldn’t shift it. So I just I asked Allison said can you just have a look at this and see what you can? What’s going on for me. She just did a bit of Zhang and I did guys Eric guys,

 

Bryn 

so one of the reasons why I really wanted to first to have this chat was because to me in the last three, four or five months, there’s been quite a shift of energies to say the least. Yeah, you could look at it on on level better you can look at it other levels and, and I just interested in your view on things particularly, I mean, picking up on what you’re saying before about helping people to make part of your role being helping people to make more conscious choices. I think that’s like a, that is that the evolution of, of what we’re up to here, making more and more conscious choices, rather than acting out unconsciously and reacting. But it almost to me feels like there’s been

 

 

where before it was a

 

Bryn 

do you want? Do you want to do conscious choice choosing or not? Thomas fields in the last three to four to five months there’s been a shift in energy and it’s like Alright kids, it’s time to do conscious choosing.

 

Garry Ryan 

I agree. And it is it’s like my process it’s time to let go of mom and dad and which can be the government or your religion or whatever, your family or whatever and step out into the big wide world and see what you can do get yourself and yeah, we got to grow up and we’ve got to become

 

 

oh not

 

Garry Ryan 

yet I’d rather go with it because it’s free will universe is a free will universe and so you know, make a choice. Which way do you want to go? What do you want to live in? level fear? Yeah, it feels like that to me. Yeah. I’ve, I am very grateful I’m up here because I’m away from the worst of it.

 

Bryn 

What do you mean the worst?

 

Garry Ryan 

The two polarities of the bombardment of negativity through various different sources including energetic play being pulsed onto the planet and the other side that is also pulsing stuff onto the planet and going look, this is the way so I’m finding it easy to sit in the middle and, and observe. I’ve barely been up in up here. Yeah, particularly when it started I locked in thing started I I could really feel that pull into a negative feeling and negative thoughts.

 

Bryn 

It’s interesting you say that because I have family in England so even just stay in, in metropolitan Perth was still felt felt like a rarefied gift compared to the rest of the world even even recognising that has its own energy ecosphere going on as well.

 

Garry Ryan 

It did definitely. And it’s one of the reasons I moved up here or wanted and wanted to move up here was because I was feeling I was actually feeling really cramped and I felt like my energy field was pushing against the the walls and the fences of the household block and I’m really need to expand, not feeling comfortable anymore. But with my believe we’re being forced to change and we’ll make choices and it is like a choice. We we can go with this easily. And even in the easily there’s challenges and there’s facing out like look I’ve got stuff coming up I’m not the stuff yeah there’s some there’s some parts in that that are pretty that were pretty look at. Yeah and but and and it’s necessary to go this is who I am like I i understand my dark sinister manipulative bastard magician. I’m very good at it if I want to be I just choose not to be because I I know what that looks like

 

 

flies sure

 

Garry Ryan 

and and so my choice is to see all that more and more and just let it come up and don’t fight it Don’t fight the feeling of it I don’t I don’t resist it because what’s the point? Why resist what is what does that give stress morphia pain, physical and emotional and mental. The list is more than or I go with it and go, this is how I’m feeling. Hmm. Okay, what’s going on with that? Where’s that coming from? acknowledge it,

 

Bryn 

rather than deny it, suppress it, avoid it.

 

Garry Ryan 

Yeah. And it moves through my body so much faster. And by doing that, it just shifts quicker. And so staying on Facebook has a good feel of like, snuck into that, man, that’s, anyway, that’s interesting. Staying with the community up here, so

 

Bryn 

just choosing who you start, who you hang out with. Yeah. Lucy and I’ve been very good at choosing who we hung out with during the lockdown and then slowly coming out of it. I was sort of exposed at some point. didn’t allow us. I felt it. Yeah. Whoo. Bastard that’s not pleasant.

 

Garry Ryan 

You really want them in your life and that’s you getting the feedback now that’s that’s that is one of the things that a lot of people find the hardest when they begin to do when they begin this journey when they wake up when I go What else is there? Or you know, I can’t live like this any longer or whatever the question is that you got to face and this can be your family as well. The legend blood family that you should be loyal to. There’s a whole other subject in loyalty and guilt and shame and God all traps in my opinion, and experience and tradition, traditions and otherwise, I used tradition as a word for guilt which is just saying well that’s the way we’ve always done it might say that’s what we’re gonna do this fucking cop

 

Bryn 

out halftime and

 

Garry Ryan 

yeah, it’s right. There’s no where’s the growth or expansion in that so being able to To do that I did look up 70 people because they weren’t healthy over the years and, um, and I, I do I do that now I have discernment more and more, have better discernment around where I want to be in who I have with me work with Graham in the men’s circles that he holds so that there’s two of us holding the energy which helps hold that what we’re working towards and seeing those spaces grow. I will drive have made a connection down south and cool up to two and a half hour drive. I don’t think anything of driving two and a half hours to go and be with good people where there are opportunities opening up to bring the what My skills and gifts to other people or new set of people, and because I’m working with them, and when there’s a little community growing, there’s a little expansion there of other people. So two and a half hours to do that. Oh, yeah, no problem. I’m just gonna feed you, nourish you, and it’s feeding the other people as well. We’re all we’re all helping each other out, which is, which is the best thing. And and it’s exciting. It’s new. So that’s a benefit that’s come out of this whole lockdown business. And at one minute believes that the virus is an issue. I certainly don’t believe I need a vaccination because I have for many years believe that my body’s quite capable of sorting anything out. If I don’t give it the opportunity, then how’s it gonna work it out? Yeah. You know, got kids, let them eat. Yeah, best thing for him because what’s in the debt? bacteria, viruses, bugs, all sorts of stuff, huh? Let him be in there. And, uh, so where are we going? Who knows? I didn’t ask $60 $64 question. I don’t know that the feeling is interesting watching the people who have been, I’ve been surprised by the reactions of some people. I thought, wow, I thought you were a little bit more conscious than that actually. being caught up in the fee campaign. Let’s see that.

 

Bryn 

So I’ve been on this journey with like, fair campaigns, and even you’re swinging from mainstream media to alternative views, otherwise known as conspiracy theories and stuff like that. And then swing back It’s unfortunate when I’ve enjoyed diving into them for a while and putting them on like a T shirt and going oh so if the world does look like this, what does this look like? And if it does look like this and actually putting on and embodying it for like a period of time, but the farmers have dropping out of that really quickly as well. And then also seeing others stay in that T shirt a bit longer than others but I’m always finding it a block

 

Garry Ryan 

two, you know,

 

Bryn 

expanding by not going in one if you don’t go into certain areas and go right we’re gonna have a listen to this point of view, see what people have to say, you know, whether it’s pro Vax, anti Vax, whether everybody believes that it you know Coronavirus actually came from a wet market or not or this that in the other end. Yeah. What does life look like? If this happens or this doesn’t, you know, I, I had a my, my sister encountered a really good friend of mine back in England and not in England. It was like mega locked down. Yeah. And she sort of bumped into a friend of mine his riding his bike. She hadn’t really interacted with the outside world and he long the short of it was he just she just been looking after her boys and hadn’t really were locked down. So we’re just gonna do the family thing inside had a beautiful time hadn’t really interacted white with Is there a virus isn’t the virus or anything like that, and then bumped into my friend who just went that saw a lot of bollocks. And the reason why it’s bollocks is because the planet is getting trashed and there’s no way we’re all going to stay at home. So the best way they could keep us to stay at home was to tell us there was a virus so they would keep us all at home for a couple of months and just let the environment just rejigged itself. So it would be able to go forwards And the response from her and my mother and father who was listened to were like, Yeah, what’s he got going on in his head? And my response was, well, you know, if you’re going to have bearing in mind, nobody knows. Nobody knows the full answer. Nobody has the full picture. So if you’re going to choose a story, I thought my mate story was actually a fucking beautiful story to be circling around with. Yeah, this is a conscience. I am going to consciously get involved in this conspiracy. For him that was not a Coronavirus. But the reason why they were talking about it and why it’s so deadly, keep everyone at home, just to let the environment have a breather for a couple of days. I was magic. So if you’re going to consciously choose something

 

Garry Ryan 

it’s a good story or go with that one. I like that.

 

Bryn 

Yeah. If you want to choose a story, yeah. All the other places. I don’t know.

 

Garry Ryan 

Well, I did a bit of that I’d every now and then we’ll have a look at them. I think it’s very important for people to realise what’s actually going on the planet and paraphrase that by it’s my opinion, yes. That there is there is child slavery in this world there is human slavery, there is child sex abuse, on a scale that most people will just freak out about, and find, potentially find very difficult to deal with. And there are allegedly groups that are meant to be looking after us that are not looking after us. And it goes beyond business. It’s that’s only the surface stuff. Yeah. That goes into the Anyway, we’ll let that come out. In my opinion, and that’s going to be difficult, but that’s the reality that we have to look at. We have to see how we’ve been conned. We have to see the truth of what’s been going on on this planet. That’s noise without it. It’s the same as when you do life. You Doing personal growth. something comes up about you behaviour. It’s really ugly. But you got to look at it. acknowledge it, like your mother stuff. Yeah. But not get caught up in guilt or shame or anything if those things are in there. Yeah, terrific. Let them come out right to now. Do the work that’s necessary whatever it is. Oh shit, I’ve let this happen. But don’t let it consume you and then run your life.

 

Bryn 

Yeah. Oh, this happened. I’m such a dickhead. How can I have done that shame? Whoa, is me all that bullshit. I know. I was a decade. That’s right, right. let’s acknowledge that.

 

Garry Ryan 

Yeah. Why How? What was the story? Now what can I do about it?

 

Bryn 

Oh, if you do need to apologise to a few people

 

Garry Ryan 

got sorted out and clean

 

Bryn 

it out. Clean it up.

 

Garry Ryan 

And and that’s it. So on a global scale. Yes, as above so below, in Yang blah, blah blah. It all happens again. Exactly the same way the planet is having personal growth on a global scale. Yeah, the pressure of being trapped. I’m looking at God I acknowledge there are, there are a people who are at home with an absolute maniac, that we’re not looking forward to being locked up all the time with a psycho who’s bashing them, molesting them, abusing them, blah, blah, blah, whatever that is, and

 

 

maybe

 

Garry Ryan 

this will give them the power to go. No more. Maybe that’s what they needed to go. I mean, I’m taking my kids. Whether it’s a man or woman, I’m out of here. Maybe that’s what they need. Nice. I know. A friend of mine. Been working on the kids, all the kids but been working on separating that from the adult to the child and letting them go so they can have their own life and and how difficult that’s been and that’s been going on for quite a long time few years. And this has actually enabled the conversations that crew should have been not by my, by her admission, should have been had 12 months ago. But when necessary, and what’s come out of it is all good stuff. Yeah, kids moved out, starting to stand on our own two feet, growing by self, her and a partner, we’ve got freedom, starting to look at where they’re gonna go in their life, what they want to do, they can actually breathe again. I can actually see where they’re going, selling the house because all that stuff’s done and it wouldn’t have happened. Well, probably would have happened but who knows how long what. Yeah, how long but because of this, it’s brought it all into fresh And people love to have compression before we change. Yeah. It’s just what level of compression? Yeah, which is the other advantage of growing and looking at your own shit is because the level of compression gets less and less and less and less and less. And Arkan that’s a good thing. So, yeah, it’s been it’s been amazing what’s coming out of this.

 

Bryn 

You said earlier on about child slavery human slavery government’s not doing from an energetic level what? Because that’s like a big macro energetic level. What is that? It’s control of the people.

 

Garry Ryan 

And well, because the worst life planet

 

 

so

 

Bryn 

it’s so I’ve dabbled with this idea. Yeah. Well, more than doubled. And there’s a part of me that’s like, okay, so We are. I’ve, I’ve mentioned this morning I’ve mentioned before in podcast, this idea that the tide is coming out and exposing things for what they really are.

 

Garry Ryan 

It’s a great analogy government, you know, and and

 

Bryn 

i was i was recommended to go and read the book of revelations and I got I got really caught with the four horses of the roller, which is the king, someone over is to roll and tell us what to do to abdicate responsibility,

 

 

war,

 

Bryn 

trade, you know, crypto pay for half a thing of grind, and death. And I really dived into the four of those over this time as like, wow, they are serious systems that we buy into and shape and sterilise. But if we go into that roller thing like it, it’s very easy in the conspiracy world to go. Oh yeah, there’s a cabal of 12 people or whoever it is, and they sit so far at the top, they pull The strings and all these things happen. Or maybe it might be more energetic beyond 12 pain, not at the top. But it but it’s kinda like, it’s easy to externalise that stuff. When so I guess my question is, is how complicit are we in our own slavery and how, therefore are usually how much is the slavery ourselves and within Maya within the matrix of belief within your own guard?

 

Garry Ryan 

Yeah, interesting because I think there’s a few things that go along with that. There’s a programme that’s been running on this planet being pulsed onto this planet, which is the victim victimizer, the victim and victimizer, right And so this is like our

 

Bryn 

pocket drama triangle with the persecutor, victim. persecutor, yeah, enter in through the helper.

 

Garry Ryan 

Yep. Oh, yeah, yeah, yes, that’s right. And in that triangle people exchange roles, particularly when they’re in a relationship close relation around the board, you can move around the board depending on what people need spat out and you go, what the fuck? That’s right.

 

Bryn 

So it’s victim victimizer.

 

Garry Ryan 

And it impacts thought processes. How many people realise that everybody on this planet has a voice talking to them in their head? That’s not actually then. I’ve talked to someone who didn’t realise I said, might. That conversation you’re having in your head a bit. You’re not good enough and it won’t work. Everybody in this room has got one Including me. Yep. And he went what really hits there because we’re not alone. Every every person I work with is not alone. What we experience is other people experiencing well and it’s really powerful to know that I’m not alone in my stuff. Oh shit. Yeah, that’s right happens to other people as well. So the mind, separation game, divide and conquer. make people think that they’re alone. How would you do that? Like I said, Our thoughts are our most powerful tool. When we think something and then speak it out. We give it even more power is why gossip is so toxic. Yeah, people know, when you’re talking about him. How should people know they can feel it? You walk into a room and go they’ve been slagging me off. That’s not good. Yeah, that don’t feel comfortable. Because we’re all connected. We’re all energetically connected. And, and but that’s the mind. That’s the programme is isolate, isolate, isolate, isolate, isolate, isolate, separate, isolate and separate. When I was a kid, house fence was about four foot high and then had wire along it. timber frame and wire. What’s a house fence these days? Yeah, standard seven, eight foot.

 

 

Isolation or what? Yeah.

 

Garry Ryan 

Progressive stage of isolating people, which builds in fear. Oh, I don’t want to talk to my neighbours because I have no rational Origin but my mind is giving me a reason that I don’t understand. And I’m leaving any question, but it just says, I don’t want to know who they are. Hmm.

 

Bryn 

And so the interesting part in what you were saying before, which is that, a, we recognise that everybody has that voice going on in our heads. He said something else as well. And that that’s not yours.

 

 

Yeah, it’s not. Where’s that come from?

 

Garry Ryan 

All right, just suppose that we live in this universe that’s like, massive and there’s millions and millions of galaxies. And just suppose that something got into this galaxy. That goes, You know what, I actually don’t like life, and I’m gonna stop it. Yeah. So let’s say that, let’s suppose that the earth is this really amazing place that has been populated by plants and animals and people from across Cross the galaxies, because it’s like this jewel in the crown. And let’s suppose that if you didn’t like life, one place to go to would the earth go and suck it up? Let’s fuck that place up.

 

 

Yeah, it’s full

 

Garry Ryan 

of resources, including humans, including including the soul. And the soul has massive energy. And so let’s make them afraid of death.

 

 

Yes, one of the full,

 

Garry Ryan 

huge, just a huge amount of fear around death, which is death is just the end of this body. Give it back to the earth. And then I get to come back and do it again in a different body around

 

Bryn  

us whether I’m deciding that death is not taking off the torch you

 

Garry Ryan 

Yeah. Perfect. Thank you. I’m quite touchy. So if you want to Trouble people. Then you get some people, they get some humans on board, who are greedy and caught up in their own ego. And there’s a few stories around whether this infestation started for humanity when, way back when the universe was created or at some other time, but doesn’t really matter. It’s in us. It’s in our DNA. It’s actually that shadow part of is is in our DNA. And which is why it’s important to acknowledge that it is there. Yeah, rather than try and deny it. Yes. You’re the same as any shadow.

 

Bryn 

Yes, we can do doubt yet.

 

Garry Ryan 

Yeah. And because I can do it and because I know it because I own it. I then have control. Yes, I get tonight. I now get to say yes or no.

 

Bryn 

And where this lot of our media and the drive of medicine and things go as in there, right even down to like climate change. It’s like humans are the problem. All right. Maybe Maybe we’ll keep going with and what does it you know, you’re not enough. You can’t wait. You can’t win the fight against Coronavirus in and of yourself. Yes. You know, humans are the problem we do that we all like continue have become quite sensitive bombardment of guilt and shame and fear and loathing, that’s just, you know, just just quietly put underneath, you know, like, even in my recent presentation, you know, you have to go to school to learn, why do you need to learn? Because you don’t know. So you’re an empty

 

Garry Ryan 

vessel? What do I don’t? What don’t I know? What data will give you what you need to know and give you what you need to

 

Bryn 

know. And yeah, where it’s, yeah, my so. So this is where you’re going is this is this story or this idea or assumption or assertion that, you know, at a period of time in our history, and we’re talking way bigger than before? Hey, what’s that? This, there was a shift on this planet that was put upon it. Which means that a lot of the wonky shit that’s not working here, you know, whether it whether it be governments, whether it be economy, whether it be

 

 

all the stuff,

 

Bryn 

all the stuff that you know, when you only really recognise it when you go away for a holiday for a fortnight, come back and then go off again, or you come out to lock down after two months and go, Oh, I did that. Here’s where I get to is has it been done to us? Or as part of becoming levelling up to the next level of expansion evolving? You know, part of source realising itself? Did we actually actively choose to go down the dark hole?

 

Garry Ryan 

Who, yeah, probably a bit of both, I reckon. done to us to dumb us down to make us a slave rice. Which means we can be harvested in many ways, including off planet. And children, particularly because children hold a pure energy. So there’s a lot of energy in the child and so to put a child into fear, then that energy can be harvested, which feeds the shadow realms.

 

 

The energy itself.

 

Garry Ryan 

Yeah, they call it luge. Hmm. And so one of the ways that’s harvested is apparently there’s a collection point in England and then it’s collected by the moon.

 

 

So

 

Garry Ryan 

be careful what you give the moon is my opinion. I know a lot of women love the moon ceremonies, but just just find out for yourselves what you

 

Bryn 

think a lot of stuff around the moon being way bigger than it should be? Yeah.

 

Garry Ryan 

Well, it doesn’t change its face and it’s been proven by science doesn’t shift. Now if you were to stand, if I were to stand up and you were to walk around me for you to face me, you actually have to physically, because if you’re on an axis, yeah, you would at some point your back would be facing me. But for you to continually face me, you actually have to physically adjust, adjust yourself to around. Yeah, so let’s get on with the mind. It’s the only body in the solar system that we know of which scientists said not mean does that, that does that. So, you know, they’ve got pictures of moons on Saturn, and you can see the thing rotating slowly. So it’s a bit of an oddity in that.

 

Bryn 

Yeah. Personally, I beaming down.

 

Garry Ryan 

Yep. Personally, I think there’s no back on it, but that’s just my joke. Yeah. And, and so it’s a it’s a it’s a tool. To use to collect and to pulse negativity into the planet, and one of those things is that was being pulsed. So that’s now actually being changed. So these synchronic lines have been recovered which is part of our shift. Hmm. Where I believe that I have a strong feeling that suicide came into us. suicides a major, stressful, long, painful thing not just for that person, but also for the people who left behind. Yeah. And so if you look at the theory that you harvest if you that fear is being harvested, low vibrational energy is being harvested so

 

 

then matrix esque

 

Bryn 

type harvesting of energy. Yeah, that’s the best analogy I can come up with.

 

Garry Ryan 

Yes. And so my own All right. So then Hang on, let’s go back a little bit. So we’re being influenced. Our greatest one of our greatest powers is our thought is thought one of our strongest things is thought as a creation force. So if you pulse, negativity, and I’m no good, and I’m not worthy, and I’m not good enough, and I can’t do this, and I’ll never succeed, and I think I’m addicted and edited into people, stop them discovering just how incredible and magnificent they are. Because look at what happens when we actually go and do something. Yeah. And the feelings of joy that we get from the

 

Bryn 

basis of a whole personal development movement.

 

Garry Ryan 

Yeah, and it doesn’t matter. That’s right but and then because of who we are, we have the right to free will. But with this stuff’s coming into a subconsciously and we make agreements with people unconsciously and, and energies that we make, they only get into us because we’ve agreed to it on some level or allowed even on some way. I think unless I you know, who knows what I’ll know tomorrow could be completely different. Then Yeah we buy into the story as well. So influenced and we buy into the story as well.

 

Bryn 

Yeah, the story becomes our reality

 

Garry Ryan 

and then there we go and then we leave this life that’s not really who we are or what we want and then

 

Bryn 

whilst giving off this unseen energy that is being harvested and then collected into a

 

Garry Ryan 

energy bowl and Sarah going back out through your I think it’s the Orion gate or something rather well that is some apparently there’s some black holes out there that’s where these things come through from a black hole dimension and this is all part of galactic wars and things have been going on and part of humanity’s design is to bring peace to the universe, is we’ve got DNA no actual DNA design is a 12 strand design which comprises when we find the I reckon this is true. This feels heady. No, anything’s true. Well, from actually

 

Bryn 

going inside of yourself

 

Garry Ryan 

and see what feels true for me. Yeah, by going inside and

 

Bryn 

hey, look, just just before you go tell me what true is for you. I just told you about my mate back in England cruising around thinking that they they shut down and use credit cards to shut down the world to clean it up. Right? So that just demonstrates how by and large we’re constructing universe constructing reality through the stories we tell ourselves so right way to go Gary, what’s up?

 

Garry Ryan 

He was a happy guy, right? He was really enjoying the process,

 

Bryn 

you know, so so it’s you know, Gary what you know. So your your story is 12 strings and what

 

Garry Ryan 

tall strands of DNA we already know we’ve got science said Oh, there’s all this dysfunctional DNA and it’s all just junk. That’s not part of who we are. There’s no cheese if you can design a universe in it. planets or a galaxy, I’m sure you’re not going to just junk into zero waste with arrow. Right with suns on crashing into each other all the time.

 

Bryn 

Exactly. There’s no waste or junk in the system. yet we’re cruising around with it.

 

 

We’re the only ones in red jungle

 

Bryn 

already using what 5% of our brain?

 

Garry Ryan 

Yeah. So. So we’re reactivating that that was taken away from us. And to touch briefly on our diamond, her discussion is one of the things I studying is what are our higher faculties? Right, we’ve got five senses, and then we’re at high five highest senses. We know that

 

Bryn 

yes. I mean, the five highest senses are,

 

Garry Ryan 

well, electronic vision, the ability to smell things that aren’t there to taste things that aren’t there. There’s

 

Bryn 

almost instead of the five being externally focused, they’re almost internally focused intently focused

 

Garry Ryan 

so that I have a feeling knowing sentience and then they talk about and they’ve discovered some of them. They talk about community was one of our higher senses to be able to live in community, not just with each other as humans, but with the entire planet and everything around us. community with everything. Yes. And that was one of the things that was taken away.

 

 

Which would which would

 

Garry Ryan 

isolation

 

Bryn 

separation, which would certainly start to explain why we treat the planet like we do. Yep, yep.

 

Garry Ryan 

so prevalent in Western society for whatever reason, it came through the white man. And I’m very pleased and excited that there are so many people on this planet that are doing something and changing and I’ve met so many from and talked to a few. I was when I was in India a couple of years ago. I met a group of people who went here a couple of years ago, one guy was telling me so a couple years ago, I realised I was part of the problem. So there’s 20 of us now we’re putting money in, we’re gonna buy this like piece of land. I took me around, we’ve seen the land and I know that bought the land now. And then going back to organic farming, they building stuff where they can create places where people can do yoga and harmony and music and you know, awakening. Right, there is all this stuff is happening. So it’s very exciting. And it’s, it’s all over the world, like you might run down. I need to push like going, Oh, yeah, it was just so the planet could get a rest. Like, that’s just as important as this group of 20 or what you do here with wi real or what I’m doing. That’s, that’s just awesome. That’s pushing all that that pumping joy into the planet, which is what we need more anything.

 

Bryn 

And that’s another interesting conscious choice right now, whether you want to go as far down the down down the rabbit hole as some of the things you’ve you’ve mentioned here on I think most people one level or another, and, you know, it’s if let’s just take two meals right? One might be big mac and chips, right and the other one might be I don’t know some nice curry or something that somebody

 

 

made from the local show nice tight this

 

Bryn 

homemade from the shop this that the other night now, one may taste awesome on your lips because it’s packed full of sugar in this then the other one would probably taste good but not quite up where the other one is. How you gonna feel? Two minutes? Five minutes. 10 minutes 20 minutes half an hour. Right? Yeah, even within your body.

 

 

What’s gonna make you feel like shit?

 

Bryn 

Yeah. What’s gonna make you feel? Oh, that’s good Pat for the nourishment. Well, I’m feeling good. So I’ve long had this idea of feed yourself good stuff. So let’s just put it out there that if If you know if we are receiver and transmitter of energy and if you don’t believe that then just like whatever

 

 

then

 

Bryn 

well I would argue if if you struggling with that then you choose your example earlier on then you’re also telling me that you’ve never walked into a room and gone Oh fucking now you could have cut the atmosphere with a knife edge. And that’s exactly what we’re talking about. Right? That’s exactly what we’re talking about. So therefore, consciously you’re a receiver of information because a transmitter of information very much right at this point in time, consciously make a decision. What type of energy you want to pop out, pop back out, because it’s going to come back to you. So therefore Do you want to feed the shift stuff which we’ve been doing willy nilly programmed and stuff for such a long jostling

 

Garry Ryan 

words we use you know,

 

Bryn 

it’s, it’s, it’s like that breaking in behaviours of going from the Big Mac two. Now I’m going to eat the lentil burger or what the fuck you know To sit around a slob to start doing some more activity. Yes, it takes a little bit of a shift, bit like when you switch the TV off in front of kids and they go through that jello layer of mugging to do and but you transition through and then it’s just new norm of right I’m going to feed the grid, I’m going to feed the environment we feel whatever it whatever you want to call it. It’s a conscious decision about what we’re actually going to chuck in there.

 

Garry Ryan 

conscious choice in everything conscious choice, conscious choice, conscious choice. What am I doing? I’m cleaning my teeth. Why? Why am I cleaning my teeth because it’s good for my teeth. I’m giving a good energy to my teeth. I mean, teeth are gonna be healthier. Just simple. Yeah. Simple next DJ and and so I think one of the conversations

 

Bryn 

Yeah.

 

Garry Ryan 

I’ve had with people he’s like, so you know, we can go into Are you gonna meditate? You do not have to lie and I’m one of those people. I used to struggle with meditation, right? I can drive me fucking mad. I can’t do this shit.

 

Bryn 

Yeah.

 

Garry Ryan 

Until I got to the point where I went, oh, oh gee, my mind is gonna be really busy today for this meditation, sand healing or whatever it was we’re supposed to be having this peaceful on session. And as soon as I’ve started doing that, it has just all of a sudden the sessions over and I go Oh, it’s good. Wonder where my mind went. Yeah, I’m not fighting it. Yeah, I’m not finding it at all and which is a part of my healing work is great. Where’s that? Oh, you know? No, no. We’re gonna go with where it goes. Where guys? Wherever you think what have you feel? We’re getting there.

 

Bryn 

We spoke a while ago I didn’t worry about how the ICT how previously I found guided meditations really fucking stressful. Light Let me go into the igloo and in the middle of the ugly I can’t see any glare on a fucking bed.

 

Garry Ryan 

Yeah, I need to go to the igloo on a beach.

 

Bryn 

Why motherfucking beach should be an igloo because the woman said on the man set and it’s like, you get that epiphany of like, really doesn’t matter. All right. Ah, I on the level of decided I’m going to a beach now Niggli.

 

Garry Ryan 

Perfect. I’m rolling with that. And that’s the way to do it. And I do I do this guided meditation like so through my breathwork last year. When we go into the peaceful stage, where the music’s just playing, stuff started to come through so I was dialoguing through staff and I was a lot of energy coming through and just sitting there laying in the woods. We’re all out. Which is a funny experience because I usually sit there and go.

 

 

I think I should be saying something but I don’t really.

 

Garry Ryan 

Okay, I just gotta get myself to say one word. Soon. As soon as I say a word, it stops but it’s This funny little transition point in between and but aside, just yeah, and that conversation and then working with another guy reminded me which is the free flow of where a session goes, Yeah, is we had a chat and I think we’re gonna do a meditation. I think Yeah, I got my drum out we did a little guided thing. And but it reminded me for both those conversations to say at the beginning, I’m gonna be saying some words. And if you end up on a desert island, or you end up in the snow or you end up on a mountain, that’s perfectly fine, you go exactly where you need to go. Yes. Just go there because I’m going to talk stuff. And you’re going to you’re going to go where you need to

 

Bryn 

your unconscious, that creating after and I talked about this last week, you know your conscious unconscious is creating a scenario, picture or bringing in players or Whoever they are in a situation and and it’s not to get caught up in that. It’s then to sit there, be there, wherever that thing is, and then feel it and then come through the back and then go to the next place. Yeah, rather than I was supposed to be in an igloo.

 

 

Fuck

 

Garry Ryan 

it’s cold in England. Yeah, I’ve no relationship to an igloo.

 

 

No, not at all.

 

Bryn 

So yeah, and yeah, and it’s actually going with that it’s like the same with dreams. Oh God really funny story about you know, went camping with mom and dad and we stopped in this one place and woke up in the morning and mom’s in a funny mood and what’s going on? And she’s like, strange gentlemen. You know, your dad was leaving with another woman. And I all man sitting there going. I’m in the trouble and all I’ve done is woke up this morning and apparently I’ve been dreaming. And so let’s have a chat with mom basically go well look, you know Your unconscious decided to choose a part of to replicate to symbolise itself as dad. And it’s clear enough. So you might want to think about what that part is that represents dad for you. And why is it doing this action? Anyway, Dad looked to me it was like, you just start so much trouble. But later on in the day moment for love walk along the beach, and we were down there, bravo. And then and then mum was fabulous. I’ve got it. I’ve worked it out. It’s got nothing to do with that brilliant, nothing to do with that. And dreams are another great source of that.

 

Garry Ryan 

They I read this amazing book, many years ago channel book, and it was talking about dreams and how you can when we we can go into different dimensions. And what we get back is just a fragment of what what’s actually happened. And you can go into dream dimensions where you can outplay scenarios which is lucid dreaming, yes. What if I make this choice? I will just going to go down this road. What’s the main

 

Bryn 

thing that people do?

 

Garry Ryan 

Yeah, more if I make this choice, I will it’s going to go down this road. Oh, well, I like that. I want to change it back here. And I do it. I do it myself in the mornings in that halfway asleep stage in the morning. It’s been brilliant for an insight. And one of the things his book talks about what if our politicians did that? We’re running our country did that for the scenarios of how’s this decision that we’re thinking of going out play for the people? Yeah, like I said the dimensional fool. I would not be just wow. Ah, yeah. Because to be making that sort of choice you’re gonna be you know, you’re if you’re in that space of we’re really here for the betterment of the planet and the people. What a way to make a decision. Oh, yeah, we’ve seen only at plays. And it’s this, this and this.

 

Bryn 

Yeah. We sat and drained on it. Yeah. Interesting silac because for a while, I’ve been sort of particularly the whole idea of what what a level of governance in lieu of I was getting to a place where we don’t need governance would actually look like because it mystified me, right. here’s, here’s where my little one of my little musings one day, which was when it came to lock down time, you know, all of a sudden by civil liberties were taken away and there is enforcement, and there was subtle It didn’t take long for a bit within group social shaming, shepherding, you know, serious

 

Garry Ryan 

threats coming from the government, it

 

Bryn 

seems yet you know, 50,000 thousand dollar fines stuff like that, you know, me whether that’s actually legal or not is another matter but they were saying die in it, which then puts the sphere in and then you know, and then all of a sudden it’s do the right thing and, and all of that crap, which you know means that it’s cheaper we don’t need the ship the dog because we just do it to ourselves

 

Garry Ryan 

and Allah anyway, goes back to where we were before, wasn’t it? Yeah. Are we doing it to ourselves? Are we doing this this house as

 

Bryn 

well, but I always thought that something went right so let’s just go with let’s just start with a few base base points of assumptions like let’s just say Coronavirus is really what it is. And it is really and it poses as much danger as really as we expect, right. Have we got ourselves to a place where the the response that the and what they listen to can’t see here is my little bunny is of two things inside of why is it that the appropriate response has to be enforced as opposed to You know, whether it be in lieu of, or somewhere between there is respected. There are, say elders who sat and drempt upon it and gone look, we’ve had a lot rather drink that or that or that. And by and large, this seemed to be the best way and then everybody, so we’re going to let everybody else just have a little mini Dream on it and then come to your own and then from that everyone goes, Yeah, you know the right so I am going to stay indoors. I am going to do the day and and you wouldn’t need x’s on the floor in Woollies. You wouldn’t need one in one out

 

Garry Ryan 

like diner perspex company. Yeah, how much money you just made. I

 

Bryn 

you know, and I grew up

 

 

did I get all that ready so far that’s incredible

 

Bryn 

that well, that’s why the rabbit hole but where I’m going? is is is wild. We not in a place where if something like that was real and legitimate, and there was an impending issue or danger or risk that we didn’t have respected mechanisms in place where we could skate, right? These are the things you go, okay. Yeah, no, we actually do respect this guy. And he’s saying the thing, we’ll make the choice. And we do and we don’t need please. We don’t need enforcement over 50 grand fires, we don’t need like, all this stuff, though. The data and the shape of stuff. And then from there, it was kind of, you know, because not many people, we can have that conversation because everyone just goes, Oh, yeah, well, well, that’s just not how it works. You know, there’s always going to be decodes about who needs to be enforced in this step. The other is that well, why do we accept anything less than what I’ve just said? Yeah, like a society that does not require ever expanding government power and enforcement.

 

Garry Ryan 

Do you mean, apart from the thousands of years of suppression and control We’ve been influenced by it’s in our genetic field and training from our parents and everything around us or is there another reason? Well,

 

Bryn 

yeah, there you go. I mean, what I’ve just said there if you actually sit and cogitate and meditate on it, that’s fucking revolutionary what I’ve just said, Why do we accept for anything less?

 

Garry Ryan 

Absolutely, I that’s one of the worlds I want to live in my ideal world. Part of my ideal world is I had a dream on this forum and doing some work recently. In a in a in a small group. Was my vision was we were I was watching myself and exchanging someone who had done some work on a property on a piece of land and exchange was emotion was gratitude. And grace Isn’t that enough? Because you’re doing what we do. We’re living our passion with living what brings us joy, bringing Everything in and and the work that person was doing was the Alex change was gratitude exchange was emotion.

 

 

Hmm.

 

Garry Ryan 

Very just on it. Yes. Yeah. It’s like it sits right out of a page of the soliciting prophecies comes to mind around. Well, that’s my world I want to live in. That’s the world I’m objecting out. That’s how I want to go. That’s where I’m going.

 

Bryn 

Yeah.

 

Garry Ryan 

And tied into exactly what you’re talking about, then that’s another part of that world. Yeah, really? Yeah. Because we have this and we have this. And we know when we trust in these people that we’ve put in place, consciously put in place

 

Bryn 

did not get

 

Garry Ryan 

tricked through manipulation of how they had a politician and how the government were how the voting system works and all the rest, but it’s truly and honestly we know. And so yeah, I come in. Hey, this is everybody. drains on it you guys. Yeah, you’re right. You got it. Yeah. And once I graduate what’s your exchange? gratitude? emotion. Hmm heartfelt emotion and isn’t like to to really be able to feel in the heart when somebody gives you a gift. How amazing how fulfilled how feeling that is when you get a genuine gift from someone. And when experience giving someone a genuine gift with real gratitude, that is just my consumer hat expanding just thinking about it just feeling it.

 

Bryn 

Yeah. Because why do we do half the things that we do? Well, most of the things we do for feeling Yeah. Why do we want the car the house the thing the job the hot chick dah dah dah dah dah. The feeling

 

Garry Ryan 

Phil’s the buddy With the juice that it needs it feels good if we could actually do things as an exchange for emotion

 

Bryn 

Oh really? It makes it a lot more efficient one. Oh yeah. I’m gonna have to think about with money and stuff.

 

Garry Ryan 

Why do we need money what’s money anyway? It’s another form of energetic slavery until you can come to terms with that and understand that that’s how it was designed

 

 

that

 

Garry Ryan 

because if you don’t believe it’s slavery then have a look at Okay. So now that they brought in hex digits for students at university, you start your life with a with a debt 40 or 50 whatever. thousand. Yeah. And even before then, the dream as propagated by many systems get married. Hmm. Especially in Australia. This is a big one about other countries but can buy sell a house, enhance it to 5354 feet The 800 how much how much debt? You’re going to borrow from a bank? Yeah, a year now can I give up my job because I gotta pay my house off. Can’t have that holiday because I’m paying myself shit I got enough money to pay my house off. Trap trap trap trap trapped into a cycle of I have to go and work because I have a list of things that I have to pay for.

 

Bryn 

Yeah. And therefore I am not doing the things that are in my highest joy in my highest creativity,

 

Garry Ryan 

how many people I worked with, who fucking hated their jobs. I stood. And then I went, I can’t do this anymore. It’s killing me. Yeah. And when I my kids, were now starting work 16 or whatever it was seven, eight. I said to them, and I said it often. Remember that you were getting paid for your work. And if you’re doing the job that they’ve asked you and you’re doing it to your best neurogenic fair exchange. If you’re in fair exchange, you owe them nothing. Yeah. So don’t get caught up in feeling guilty about leaving if something else comes along. If you’re not enjoying the job, get out. Don’t leave Don’t you owe them nothing. You say if you’re if you’re in fair exchange, get out don’t have new experiences have 20 jobs doesn’t matter. Go and find what you love through that. That’s important because the old system I grew up in job flow Java life stay in the job you owe them you know, they’ve given you all this stuff and they’ve paid your wages in a great quarter then you’ve got a house which are enslave to to a bank, by the way, but we won’t say that but just keep it quiet. Then they’re giving you a generous 3% interest on fuck all. I saw somebody wrote a post about that the other day and I went, right if you think you’re gonna get money from putting your money in a bank, you are kidding yourself. You need to have a real close look. Do the math and have a word with yourself because that’s a joke. But that’s an old slavery system and and in my big part of my life has been about money coming into a better relationship with money. And I also think this is a big part of it breaking the fear around not having money because I don’t have money follow I have many communities that me communities have popped up how many just here in man daring. And when this particular when this first started two, three weeks in every day there was a post about hey, we need some volunteers to go and shop at seven o’clock in the morning for the old people who can’t get out. We need this we’re putting a collective together. We’re doing this this and this like that was every day for three weeks or something. This little groups we’re just gathering and that’s so good, huh? All that stuff happened with steel guy? Yeah, I think so. Not so much because people are more free now but Yeah, we’ve got a flight over here Oregon. Mm hmm however that’s that’s a that’s a great part of and I look at the rabbit holes down again and I’ve got friends that do that so I don’t really need to have a look at some of the videos and I have a boat when you can have a well that’s that’s right you know how often you’re gonna use it but anyway so part of that is to help them when I if I feel a bit overwhelmed is come back have a conversation get rebalanced yeah pull back and come back in clear let all right you’re ready to go because they collecting information that’s vital. It’s important. That’s one of the roles they do my role is something else somebody else’s role something else and and which creates community and honouring everybody’s individual aspect of community. What’s the gifts that you bring? On your own gift war now there’s a challenge. Yeah, in some ways until you got to the point where you can actually go you know, I bring this this in this and I’ve and this is my journey, a big part of my journey of writing monsters in my with my energetic and healing work or whatever you want to call it has changed my my, it’s service to humanity service to the earth. Yeah, I’m on I’m in service to the earth and one of the ways I do that is to be in service to people by helping them to move things that are not supportive of them anymore. And so I I acknowledge that last year I realised I could take super AP and I did wasn’t a great deal of money so it was much point was never gonna be enough to go anyway. bought a new car with it. I bought a motorbike which I realised later on was I just needed some shit to work out with my teenager, solid a bit three months later, six months later, and it was great. It was a best thing. Because I got to a point where I didn’t get done sorted out, because I just had to salt. I just needed to do it on my own terms. But that was a great experience. And, and I also by doing that, and by getting out of the workforce, I made a commitment to myself, I made a commitment to why I’m actually on this planet. First part of my life has been about bringing my kids up to the best of my ability and helping them now it’s my role. Now it’s me now it’s my time. What am I doing for myself? Because they are us, as I’ve told them, you guys so far have hit him where I was when I was your age. I had no clue. Yeah. And you’re all switched on, and you’re all doing well. And you’re all on your road and it’s all that and if you want to talk to me, I’m here you know that I love you. Yeah. And, and they’re in Brisbane and I’m here and they’ve all they know. Like I said, You know, so many people are in Perth that don’t come from here. Yeah, for a reason. And they, they acknowledge that and they see that I’m here for a reason. Just because they see how happy I am. And that’s one of the most important things to them. My I’m happy if God is happy that actually makes them happy. Yeah. And and as a parent you yeah if you’re not doing your life like you can and being happy and staying in some shit marriage because you think that’s what you should do. All you’re doing is crucifying your children you’re teaching them you’re teaching them how to shift relationship you’re teaching them life on this is what relationship looks like this is what a marriage should look like. This is negativity stuff. Yeah, this is how to pitch I don’t have any favours. No. Are you for that? You know, did you enjoy that when you were a kid if you’re if you’re not treating your kids Well, I did you enjoy that because all you’re doing is repeating your father stuff. Yeah. Did you enjoy or not, if you didn’t enjoy doing it to your job. Think about that day guy.

 

Bryn 

So I’m definitely coming back full circle.

 

Garry Ryan 

Gargan, find something, move through it, do the pendulum swing goes way out here into I’m so amazing blah blah blah. It comes from this other place over here. And then you go, yeah, that’s a bit too far out and we’d actually write and we come back to the middle, but when we come back to the middle, we should be going up to the next level. And then something else turns up and then we go into the shadow of it and then we go No, I don’t want that anymore. And then we go across and we go into the light again. And we go yeah, I’m in the spiritual wind reason. Yeah. Okay, I need to come back to the middle of growing. Yeah, no. Big figure right. But growing up and up and up and just expanding and, and as a man like, I do big, energetic work with people. What’s the first thing I go I feel so much lighter. Yeah, of course we just let go of a massive amount of heavy dense energy. Yes. And it wasn’t even yours. How about that? gold, gold hacking and all of that sort of work is amazing, so good and fulfilling to watch people just blossom. And, and we want the fountain of youth. That’s it. Yes. You feel like that you look lighter. You look younger, your face physically changes in an hour or three days whatever the thing is, the Botox is temporary anyone who would put that in and would

 

 

not stop judging.

 

Garry Ryan 

It’s all other external thing. You know, Do I look good in front of the cameras? growing my hair, is it because I haven’t grabbed my hair for years and years since I was young. And I realised this the other day One of these little epiphany things of going because it was I just went doesn’t fucking matter what it looks like, I’m just gonna let that go because it’s gonna be good for me to not care. Yes. I’m gonna go lower. I’ll get to a point now guys, you don’t need a cat now what? Maybe I’ll go for the advertising executive look when it’s longer and I’ll put in enough I’m not doing that. Oh you’ll have a special one Oh no, that’ll be yeah can have a laugh with that I can actually make that work,

 

 

you do something with it

 

Garry Ryan 

and being able to laugh and being able to laugh at myself is one of the best things that I’ve been able to do and grow in 18 months. I acknowledge some of the stuff that I can do better I acknowledge that it’s not me. I’m just yeah, I’m mostly on the vessel, but we need a spirit needs a physical a physical form to work with physical things, which is what we are, in part. And by owning that and stepping out and taking that, what society would call retirement. I made a statement to the universe. I want to do this work. I mean, I’m in this 100% Yeah, here I am. What are we doing? And I get reminders to going you’re under utilising your land. You can do more here. There’s more. There’s this, there’s that and because I’ve done that my field, the field of people that I know has expanded, like I was saying some work down Safford cool op some other opportunities. It’s just amazing. Like, you guys manifested. What, what was my part in that and what was the other part that like, it didn’t even make a choice or is this just always gonna happen? Yeah.

 

Bryn 

I don’t know. Yeah, I can empathise with you. You know, since starting the podcast, just keep meeting people. From database at PayPal, and then just recently, it’s accelerated accelerated and accelerated, you know, the conversation I’m having not even with a microphone are mind blowing. Heart blowing? Yeah, this year.

 

Garry Ryan 

Wow, this year is so expensive. It’s really good. And I’ve enjoyed the solitude actually. Actually one of the things I felt is now my lifestyle hasn’t particularly changed really. Yeah. However, because of where I am, however, I have felt the energetic pool of the outside world wanting me to do other things. Yeah, that has been that has been an interesting feeling. Wow, you’re not there. So it comes back to like you’re saying what, what is my body need? What is my soul? telling me about what it wants to experience through my body. What is my real journey on this planet right now? Without the monkey mind telling me that I should be repairing my car or making this or doing something else or running off to the shuffle. Why don’t we 800,000 things? Yeah, well that

 

Bryn 

been good. It’s been good. Expensive conversation.

 

Garry Ryan 

Yeah. ever expanding. That’s the joy. And it is. Happiness is an inside job.

 

Bryn 

Oh, we’re gonna have to finish on that. That’s gonna be the title. Yep. People wonder where I got my titles from and for the podcast. Happiness is an inside job. Yep. We got to finish it that beautiful.

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