#161 Take responsibility of your Wellbeing – Dr. Peter Dingle

Learn how take responsibility for your own health with Australia’s leading wellbeing researcher Dr. Peter Dingle.

Peter wastes no time getting straight to the point putting forward the research that clearly indicates that the majority of the chronic illnesses that we suffer from today can track their source back to poor nutrition and gut health – including COVID-19.

Peter presents how the state of one’s nutrition and gut health are linked to hypertension, obesity and diabetes that is reducing our life expectancy.

This will be difficult listening to some as it clearly indicates the direct impact of our lifestyle choices upon our health and time on earth.

We also talk about the key difference between true scientific research and the pathology focused business of medicine, and how you as an everyday person can tap into the latest research that isn’t always so forthcoming.

Peter is super enthusiastic, and this was a great opportunity to tap into such a wealth of evidence-based wellbeing information and data.

For the listener you will be given some clear tips and steps of just how to regain your health and standard of life.

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Bryn 

Learn how to take responsibility for your own health. With Australia’s leading wellbeing researcher, Dr. Peter Dingle.

 

Peter wastes no time going straight to the point, putting forward the research that clearly indicates that the majority of the chronic illnesses that we suffer from today can track their source back to poor nutrition and poor gut health, and that includes COVID-19.

 

Peter presents How the state of one’s nutrition and gut health are linked to hypertension, obesity and diabetes that is reducing our life expectancy.

 

This will be difficult listening for some as it clearly indicates the direct impact of our lifestyle choices upon our health and time on Earth. We also talk about the key difference between true scientific research and the pathology, focus business of medicine, and how you as an everyday person can tap into the latest research.

 

Peter is super enthusiastic, and this was a great opportunity to tap into such a wealth of evidence base Wellbeing information and data for the listener, you’ll be given some clear tips and steps of just how to regain your health and standard of life.

 

So enjoy, Peter.

 

Bryn 

Hello and welcome back to WA Real. I’m your host, Bryn Edwards. Today my guest is Dr. Peter Dingel. Peter, welcome to the show.

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

Thanks, Bryn. Great to be here indeed, in my house

 

Bryn

In your house, your kitchen table. So, by way of introduction, you’re one of Australia’s leading researchers, educators and communicator on health. Exactly. Yep. Have you written books been on TV radio, taught at Murdoch, all the things?

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

Yep.

 

Bryn

And so I thought the first question then we’ll get straight to it. What does well being and good health actually look like to you?

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

good health? And well, first of all, I’d like to think that it’s what I’m reflecting myself, right? You know, I’m 60 On the way to 64. vibrant. I do a lot of things in my day. I may not have as much energy as when I was 20. But I certainly am able to do the things that I want to do without restrictions. I’m not on any medications, yet. Every five years when I get a blood test, they come back and go, Wow, you’re joking. No, measured, you know, and I’ve got what’s called C reactive protein, which is a measure of your level of inflammation and inflammation is the cornerstone of illness. Yeah, simple concept. inflammation. Yeah. And if you control that inflammation, then you control so first of all me, what does it mean? health as you age is something that you can still get up to. Yeah. And do the things Do you want to do, I have no doubt, you know, genetically, we’re genetically able to live to 120, maybe even a bit more I can. physiologically, in other words, physically, I actually think we’re designed to collapse somewhere between 45 and 60. And everyone who I know is 45 or 60, or even younger nowadays, feel the wear and tear. So if you played sport, you’ve got the knees or the ankle injuries. If you did something else, your skin you know, whatever it is, you’ve got these injuries that accumulate. Yes.

 

Bryn 

Is that from going a bit hard early?

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

Oh, absolutely. I you know, I cringe when I see all these footballers out there, and, you know, the, the the painkillers and the stuff that they’re on the injections to get them through the game so that they can, you know, and nowadays more and more than ever, it’s faster and harder for every sport, so they’re worn out at 30 Yes, they’re exhausted they physiol physiological changes. All started at 30. Now I was probably significantly under that, but you know, 3035 your hormones change your your testosterone, which is, you know, from men and women and women. Yeah, really important for that motivation and physical physicality and things starts to decline. And if you’re worried about injuries, and you’re immobile, and you’re not eating, no, I think that declines faster. So decline a slow level, or get really fast. Yes. And we let it decline fast in our society. That’s just one testosterone. Just one example. Yeah. And as that goes down, inflammation goes up and illness goes up. But the wear and tear we have on our body is pretty much just the, you know, the things the accumulated little things that we’ve done wrong to our body over the 30 4050 in my case, 60 plus years. And you know, I did a lot of party. Yeah, I think from probably too early 17 through two, probably about 40. Yes. And a little bit too much of that. And as a result, hey, I have no doubt. So I have to put more effort into Yes. You know, making sure that the damage I did

 

 

and pay the piper

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

Yeah. And I, you know, I injured my knee at basketball at two operations. I’d said I’d never walk or play sport by play sport walk 45 years on. Because I know that I have to keep doing it. Keep doing it. Yes. And so ageing, as much as physical though, is mental attitude. Right. And I know people in their 60s who act feel and behave in like an 80 year old. And I know people in their 80s who act feel and behave like a 50 year old. Yeah. And that’s where it comes down to understanding that you don’t have to age like everyone else around you and regret it comparing yourself I’ve these friends who are Oh, yeah, on the edge of diabetes, diabetes, and they go oh, yeah, but you know, I’m better than Then go, but are you the best you can be? And the answer is Oh, no. So you know, yeah, we always compare ourselves to someone a bit worse off, so we feel good about ourselves. Yes.

 

Bryn 

like making your ego feel good. Yeah.

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

Hey, I’m okay. You know, money on two medications only on three medications. I’ve already got diabetes. You know, what’s crazy for me when it comes to health? Is that all these conditions are totally avoidable? Yes. When I say totally. Let’s get 99% Yes. And 99% reversible. Yes. 99%. reversible. But the people who work in the sickness industry now I work in the health industry. Yes. The medical fraternity to work in the sickness industry. Yes. They don’t understand health well being nutrition. I heard someone in radio yesterday a health specialist, a health expert giving advice and I cringed. I cry. Oh, well, that was saying Oh, hang on a low fat diet. Get out of the sun. You know one of the best things you can do for your your body is increasing amount of fat, better fats, healthy fats but NGC man of fats and get off the carbs and get off the the infected. This the people have heard about the keto diet or an advanced paleo diet. I’ll tell you about the opportunistic diet later on. Yeah, the keto diet is brilliant. I don’t have a vested interest in it. It’s brilliant. First of all, for for epileptics, and it’s been a treatment of epileptics for 30 years because it rebalances the messages go into the brain. But as a result of that they found out it’s great for diabetes, grateful weight loss, great for hypertension, grateful Hold on just about every single form of chronic disease. And this is high fat high protein. hmm wow. And getting off the processed cops. Wow. You can do it. Yeah, and and The supplements I talked about and the lifestyle factors. You know, it’s healthy, simple, but the medical sickness industry complicated. Here’s a quote I put up on one of my blogs and the medical industry literally trains people to be on drugs for the rest of their life.

 

 

They treat the symptoms that don’t treat the illness. See, I can lower cholesterol

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

with a drug, but it actually doesn’t reduce your risk of a heart attack or stroke. Right? cholesterol has become the illness because you’ve knocked out the symptom. Not cool. Yeah, you’re dealing with symptoms. Now the same with blood pressure. And I was, I thought blood pressure was the Holy Grail. You know, I get a blood pressure blood pressure meds are so good and so on. And I looked at the results, because in covid, 19, you know, this this illness we have now this, this political game is I looked into it because I thought, you know, the single biggest Which factor for for COVID? Is hypertension. So I thought it wasn’t drugs. At first I looked into the No, I found out the drugs. If you take a drug, you get 100 people to take the blood pressure drugs. And this is all science. I’m a scientist. I go to the studies, not the media. I don’t read the media. Yeah, I don’t read the papers. I don’t want the scientist. It’s 50% wrong and the other the other 50% is lies. It’s just a waste. Okay. Yeah. And people always telling me are Where did you learn this? I go to journals. Here they are. Here’s the copies. So coming back to hypertension, and I thought well, if 100 people the studies show that if you get 100 people to take the medication for four and a half years, you reduce one heart attack. Yeah. What so you may reduce blood pressure by 10 millimetres of mercury or say 10 points or 12 points, okay, works for doing that. But it doesn’t get the underlying issue which is efficient. elimination and oxidation. So I I cringe. Now I’m skippable. So for the last six months, I’ve been researching his blood pressure and COVID. Right, and just looking at that, and we’ll get into that later. But you know, again, knowing that blood pressure deal with it, you can deal with it nutritionally, and a lifestyle for 490 9% of the people out there. How much of this

 

Bryn 

is one of the things? You know, I’m really interested to hear from the detail that you’ve got to put forward today. But how much of this also is a question of people actually taking responsibility for their own health and the belief that you can do that because, you know, we could deep dive into the, you know, the sinister world of the capitalistic drivers behind pharmaceutical industries and things like that, etc, etc, etc. But the the premise on which all of that get sold is this, this amazing organism that you cruise around in this body is not good enough. And so therefore you need this thing to make it work. And, and the moment to me, because I’ve seen this not just in health, but in many other areas through the 160 podcast that I’ve done is that as soon as you buy into that story, you disempower yourself. Whereas if you if you decide, no, my body’s pretty awesome, it does need a few bits and bobs to help it along the way. Are they pharmaceutical stuff? Or is that you know, everyday life stuff. But that actually, I have to take a stand for my own sovereignty of my own body seems to be at the core of this because I know where we’re going to go in this conversation. It’s going to trickle People, and it’s going to trigger people because some of the things we’re going to talk about are run contrary to what’s been nicely packaged up in the media, or told by their GP. And the triggering sometimes I find is because people don’t want it. People don’t want what you say to be right? Because if it is, then it means that the story that they have bought into before is wrong, and nobody likes to look stupid. Because we have that ego Look,

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

it’s it’s um, it’s a catch 22 It’s a vicious cycle. People There is no doubt on the one hand you’ve got people who have to take responsibility. Yes, but then you’ve got a system that says don’t and a system that promote cancer Your doctor will do it for take them in it will do for you will look after you and so on. And then you go to see these people who were of the hell with the highest esteem and don’t get me wrong. We get the best doctors in the world when it comes to burns, breaks and bacteria and emergency and they certainly People they save lives. Yeah, they say, some of my family’s lives, okay, a saver. But when it comes to chronic illness, they’ve got no idea. They’ve got no idea and they are totally dependent on the pharmaceutical industry, that’s totally depend on profit. So they’re telling these people to will look after you. And these people are then going to the system. Now what we have to do is break into these people and say, Hey, I’m sorry, you are responsible for your health. Yeah, we do. You know, we do 90 talks a year around the country, we get about 10,000 people in front of us without talks and people get it. People get it because you know, I bright What is it? They get? Well, they get that it’s their responsibility, but many of them are there because they’ve already been in this system for so long, and they’re getting worse. Yes. And the logic is, you know, my my logic is simple. If you’re on one drug fine if you want to, you’re on the way downhill quickly. And if you’re on three, well have a look. One, two, Three How many? Yeah, you’re the owner, you can be on one drug for cholesterol, you can be on one for hypertension, hold on. But if you’ve got resistant hypertension, you’re on two or three. If you’ve got the next level of hypertension, you can be on five and it’s not even managing it plus the cholesterol, you can be on five or six tracks for something that’s not going to reduce your risk of a heart attack or stroke. And the side effects of the side effects of those are crazy. Yeah, things like weight gain, their arrhythmia, heart arrhythmias, yeah, increased risks of cancers are increased, and people don’t get it. So my message is, look, there is a time for pharmaceuticals for acute. Yeah. So if I, if I find you my shoulder, I want to be in they get an extra x rayed in put some cortisone cream, a cortisone injection in there to relax it and comment yet so that my body can then heal but my body does the healing that just enables me to For my body to do it, yeah, that’s where the medicines are fantastic. Yes. And and so what we’ve got to do and I do in these talks is say, look, you are responsible. And it’s not just responsible, you are essential to educate people around you because I forgot the owner of the the saying that, you know, all, all it takes evil to thrive. Or all it takes for the pharmaceutical companies to make a lot more profit is for all good men and women to do nothing.

 

 

So if we sit back,

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

and there are thousands of me’s around the world, there are I know scientists around the world saying exactly the same as either give or take because science isn’t pure. You know, there’s there’s all variations on it. There’s media people Pete Evans loving, he’s got the message while he’s got most of the message. Right. Okay. And, and there are a lot of people out there doing this and saying this, but the media can keep coming back and hammering and the pharmacy and the medical industry. And nobody out there is saying in the system we’ve gone look after your health. There was an interview just yesterday about decaying bodies, you know, midlife crisis 45 I’m not sure what midlife crisis is now midlife crisis, I think for me is about 60. So I’ve just hit midlife. Okay. And with this too, but

 

Bryn 

there’s there’s that my understanding is this to 41 in the latter 50s

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

and so you know, these these people that were saying, you know, we’ve, we you know, what, what do we do and things and I’m inevitable that arthritis they both had a three arthritic foot and one was 40 and one was 45 or something. I don’t know you’re joking. Why don’t you fix it?

 

 

arthritis is linked to the gut.

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

Nobody came on and said you can do something about it. Or if I did, eat more fruit veggies, nuts, beans, spices, supplement, you know, go to a good osteopath, a chiropractor. See physio you know, no one even mentioned that I’m cringing. I’m cringing going, come on in what world do we live? that people can’t make a link between their state of health and what they do to themselves? Hmm. So all we’re going to answer key Yeah. What was critical in many people though is where do they start? Yes. Where do they start? And they want that one place. And and I tell them start in the gap.

 

Bryn 

Yeah. Because it is over it is over. It is overwhelming. Yes, yes. When all of a sudden even if you get close to that epiphany drop. I mean, I think you just beautifully put it in the fact that you know, there is the blunt injury, trauma, mm hmm and scrapes, cuts.

 

 

I would want to be anywhere else Australia you know, because if something happens, you know, you’ve got the best

 

Bryn 

people in the world but then the rest is is not things that just turn up they just bit by bit puppet

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

accumulation of negatives. lifestyle and diet practice. Yep,

 

Bryn 

that is what’s confronting. So therefore all of a sudden if you’re sitting there, say for instance me 45 years old and I have that epiphany drop, how do I start unwinding that and that becomes overwhelming. I suppose it Some of it is recognising some of the things that I’ve done to contribute and then working out what are some of the things I can do to replace there?

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

Yeah, do better. Yeah. Well, it is it’s about turning around and say look, what do you want and a lot of people go well, I can’t leave. If you call leaving, having not being able to walk properly or do the things you want to do fine. That’s not living for me. You know, I love going down the beach on a warm day and going for a walk and a swim and enjoying it and coming back stretching on the beach coming back and that to me is living and just breathing and deep breathing and just enjoying it. That is real living. It’s not It’s not about having the the process takeaway foods, you know, I know people who, who just focus on the quality of life based on their junk foods. Yeah, and I’m talking about 30 year olds who are dying, they’re dying and no one’s doing anything about it. They come to me because all of a sudden, I can have one of my talks because all of a sudden, the the health conditions are so serious. They’ve got what’s called inflammatory bowel disease, which is a at the simplest way to understand they can be more than 30 minutes away from a toilet or less 10 minutes away. But a lot of pain and suffering goes with that. And it can be 24 seven, it can be peaks and troughs, it can be a whole raft of things. It can be, you know, blood in the stools, it’s all of these conditions, and ends up with fatigue and just general body malaise and anxiety and tension and stress and all the mental health issues that go along with God problems. And these people come to the talks because the medical industry Put some on chemotherapy, I really heavy dose chemotherapy, which says after three months, you’re going to stop it because prolonging the use of it any longer will kill you. That’s a side effects. And so they come to me and say, Well, you know, whatever it is I give them basics I give them 50 cent solutions. Really simple things to start with. Yeah, you know, and it comes back to first of all, diet. Yeah, diet, diet, diet, and a mental attitude. Oh, I probably won’t go into the middle attitude, but I’ve done a lot of work on that. You know, the positive, not that high. Everything works out. It doesn’t. Shit happens to everybody. Yes. It’s how you look at the ship. For me. It’s a manual from a garden. And don’t worry, yeah, I’ve been in some of the worst stuff I think anyone can go through. And yet I come out on the other side and might be a while might be weeks it might be months might be even years. Okay, but you come out so man. But coming back to it. There are some really simple strategies and people don’t get it. They don’t get it. So when our talks I say here it is 50 strategy if you’ve got reflux, do deliberate apple cider vinegar now, so I’m going to help one in 10. But that’s one in 10. That’s going to cost you five cents a day. And you have it with a meal, mixed diluted with water, there are strategies, okay. And then you can do the sodium bicarbonate, sodium bicarb is totally different. You do that. And then there’s this, this and this, and then you add this listen is, and it comes to probably, Oh, geez, almost 50 cents for the day. And people walk away and go, I’ve got 10 things I can do. I’m going to start. Yes. And I’ve had an email two weeks, two days later saying thank you. I’ve had reflux for the last 20 or 30 years. Yeah. And it’s gone. And all I did was give them what is well established in the scientific literature. And that’s one easy one. The other 90% a lot tougher. But there’s a lot of things you can do. Yeah. So I get people started, and I give them the information. I’m passionate about trading. Down evidence based. And if I give you an example with reflux and 25% of Australians suffer reflux, okay, the older you get, the more, but it happens in about eight to 10% of key infants, infants, that’s called a combination of colic and reflux. Yep. colic is just definition by pain and discomfort. Yeah, reflux is the actual condition that may be causing it in many cases. And, you know, 25% have reflux. And there are studies out there. I think last count, I don’t know 500 good studies demonstrating that here are simple strategies that don’t just reduce it but outperform the drugs and stop it. And there’s another 10,000 showing other things you can do that, you know, haven’t been studied enough and so on. And people are Wow, same with blood pressure. You know, I couldn’t get over it. discus tea. He’s a handy hint. Because again, you know, probably 30 40% have high blood pressure 20% do something about it and get to the drug get on the drugs and someone had viscous tea has been demonstrated to outperform the drugs. Well, and I think the hibiscus tea that I got from my local Asian shop cost me $5. And that was three years ago when we still got, you know, enough to keep us going for another year or two. But not only did they perform the drugs, but it had positive other side effects. And then, when I looked it up, as the chemistry of them is good, it’s going back and dealing with the inflammation and the oxidation and the underlying causes of all illness. But then I thought, well, how many so I collected 50 studies in two hours, on hibiscus tea in blood pressure. Don’t tell me there’s no science out there. These are signed, typically studying P reviewed papers. Yeah, and some of them are light on. And some of them are really powerful. Yes. And for me, it’s really simple. You look at that, you know, you look at the body of evidence, not just how good the studies are, but how many are showing it. And, you know, I look at and I cringe. So why isn’t everyone in on hibiscus tea? Oh, some people might say I don’t like it. Well, I tell them grow up. You know, get over it get over like it. You know, other other things. Green tea is a probably a two to three millimetre to three points of blood pressure. Okay, green tea, just drinking a cup of green tea every single day. All right. So by the way, also anti reflux. It’s also anti COVID. What say all these things work in line harmoniously. They all work together. Correct. And so, I base my day around eating really well. And it’s Sometimes I’ll splurge but that splurge I enjoy.

 

Bryn 

That’s a holiday. No, no, yeah,

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

you’re home. Um, I cringe when I see that, you know, we’re having kids nowadays, growing up and they’re having to take twice a day. one takeaway a week, okay. Yeah, you get it one time. Oh, but that’s normal. Yeah, normal is illness and sickness at 20. Now 25. Normal. But are we living longer? No, no. For the first time in history, the US two years ago, published a studies to show that their age expectancy, life expectancy is going down. Now what you have to do is understand life expectancy isn’t how long you’re going to live. But it’s how long the people who were born 80 years ago were going to live? Yes. So all of a sudden the people who should be living to 80 and now living there’s 79. And in five years time, it will be the people who should be living to 79 Are we living to 75 and I have no doubt that our life expectancy will get down to Unless we deal with the underlying issues, our life expectancy, we’ll get down to 70. And you’ve also got to understand that averages. So when I lived 120 vibrantly and dynamically, you’re going to be the I’m going to be putting that in my life expectancy up. Yeah, single handedly single hand. But that the whole thing about life expectancy is interesting. Because people think they can live to 80. Well, life expectancy is determined by the average. And the single biggest factor in life expectancy was hygiene, and water hygiene, and plumbing. And plumbing. As soon as I introduced chlorination in water and all those factors about 110 years ago, yeah, around the world. The number of deaths in childhood, yeah, in childhood. So these are the kids dying in the 02 to three age which would skew the average right? down that way, started living long enough, I lived to 30 or 40 or 50. So all of a sudden the average went up, but just because now we are living longer, we’ve always had people to live to 100. Always, or 500 in the Bible, I think something like that. Yeah, but we’ve always had people live longer. We do have more. But now that is starting to turn and go down. And that’s because 50 years ago, we moved to a much more processed diet and lifestyle. Yep. What was probably the best time in human health history has now rounded the corner. And we will see those ramifications now and in the future. Remember, it’s what the people you know, they show up? Yeah, I had a friend um, you know, one of the interesting things about the people who are now living to 80 and 90 I still eat pretty well what they ate back then. Except for maybe too many biscuits and treats and things, but they were brought up on veggies. Yes. And so their constitutional their result health resilience in those first 30 years, which is so critical

 

Bryn 

to meeting to age. Oh,

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

well, it was it wasn’t even neat. Yeah. Wasn’t even one meat in the 18 years ago. Yeah. You know, that was a that was a luxury. You know, going through as a kid, it was a meet and I think three or four of age and we lived on fruit and yes, I had too much cardio and too many lollies and so on and things like that, you know, that was the first generation of having those luxuries. But now those luxuries are seen as everyday part of life in order to, which is normal. McDonald’s. You know, McDonald’s and all the takeaway foods are COVID food. They are COVID foods if people don’t get this Oh, can you see that? Sorry, the studies are there is 31. Last week there was 31,000 studies on COVID 19 done in the last five, six months alone, Hmm, okay, get that now. So what do these foods contribute to inflammation, heart attack, stroke, diabetes, we all know that. And they also cause a collapse in your gut microbiome and a collapse in your immune system. And the only reason people are dying from heart attacks strokes. Yeah, there are a few percent that, you know, there’s some genetics involved. And there are stressors and environmental factors involved with that in there. But the vast majority of all of these conditions, including COVID, his diet and lifestyle related, it’s all gonna do is change it. And one of the greatest opportunities I think, in modern history is COVID. So you can look and go wild, or you can say, Wow, okay, now, particularly Australia, now that we know what is causing the deaths in COVID. We know Again, there’s there’s 1000 studies on it.

 

Bryn 

So that’s the inflammation from food.

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

But we’re the studies are coming from what the first studies did was, first of all, they identified and this was in Italy, in particular in China, that the first risk factor was elderly. And that was not just the 70s. That was over 80s. That was the over 80s. So in Italy, the average age of the deaths, then that was a second country, if you remember, that was a second country that was covered in COVID. The average age of deaths in COVID was something like 83 or 82. Yeah, that’s the average age. And if you look at the facts, I was listening to some of the facts yesterday in Australia, for people who have died in Australia in the last two or three days. And the youngest was at Hold on. So then, the studies came out to show that it was linked with hypertension, high blood pressure, and diabetes, hypertension, probably being a little bit more important. Under the responsibilities, now there are two diseases go hand in hand. So if you’ve got one you’ve pretty good chance you got to you got the two year? Well, you’re a pretty good chance you’re high risk of COVID. Yeah. Okay. Then they discovered that there are other things and what they what they say high risk, high risk of getting getting the disease, right, getting the disease suffering from it and mortality and morbidity suffering from it and dying. Yeah. And the figures are somewhere between 10 to 100 times more. Yeah. That’s how huge it is. Wow. Okay. This is why I cringe when people say the media are we where we’re having found this, I’m sorry, the studies are there. And the politicians are picking it up. And the health professionals sickness industry are picking it up. You know, the chief medical officer Health Officers in Australia should be saying we now know what it is. Here it is. Let’s isolate the 4% who are at highest risk. It’s give them high dense nutrients and deliver all those things that we know again, to reverse the Line causes, and let’s get the economy back on going and this is the biggest opportunity to tell everyone get off the junk foods. Yep, junk foods is once a week once a while

 

Bryn 

consuming the shit.

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

Yep, stop consuming that junk food shit at killing you immediately now with COVID and start eating and start eating fruit, nuts, veggies, beans, spices, throwing your meat, more fish all of those fine, but we don’t. So then we come back and the latest studies getting back on track. Then it showed obesity and obesity is a major risk factor. And of course, then that obviously obesity hypertension and diabetes type two go hand in hand. Then they’ve gone down and they’re the three major factors. With the obesity one, the most interesting studies have been showing that kids now infants and children and this was the same with the earliest sighs what’s called COVID One year old COVID 12, which is back in 2012. And yeah, the MERS these are the other similar virus Corona viruses. Yeah. The kids aren’t very susceptible. Yes. And they they looked at an iPhone and in China in the first three months or something not one child died from covid. Now children are started dying around the world, but the numbers are so minuscule it’s hard to do the stats on it. Now there are a number of reasons the psycho social factors like kids are isolated that and travel that I get out to the shopping centres and, and parents are keeping him home. But the kids who’ve shown up at hospitals don’t die. So the deaths there were just no deaths or extremely low. And then a couple of deaths started to show up, particularly when they got to the US in children. And so they looked at it and the single biggest factor for kids deaths is obesity. Obesity, it comes back To identify potential while they’re not measuring, they don’t have diabetes yet.

 

Bryn 

So what is hypertension to sample

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

hypertension is high blood pressure, right? and high blood pressure two years ago used to be above 140 on it or something for three or four years ago was changed 230. And now that’s 120. Hold on, high blood pressure is coming lower and lower, yet more people are on the drugs. It’s a great way to make money. Yeah, I’m cynical here. Okay. But they can come back. So we work at obesity. So as the, you know, the fourth major risk factor. And, and again, there’s 300 studies linking obesity with that, but the most powerful ones were in for in kids was under 25. Because there were virtually no deaths and, and then the next factor that’s shown up is smoking. Yeah, an obvious one. You know, I’m something like 16% of Australians still smoke by the way. Just to prove that I’m a scientist, I published the results in Western Australia. Back cheese. Yeah, 20 years ago, that led to the government report, banning smoking in Western Australian clubs. And perhaps I need the paper. I did the research I did. My team did the measuring and monitoring, we put the paper together, we gave it to the government, and the government banned it. That’s where, okay, so understand. I’m at home. I’m someone scientist. So we did the research. Those are the days when I spent a little bit of time in the lab. Now it’s just on the journals. But coming up coming back, we no smoking. And so then we look at all that. And we go, what are the characteristic features of this? But all of those conditions are the chronic health conditions that we typically suffer and accept and put people on the drugs. Yeah. And say Don’t worry about it. You’ll be right. Yeah, it will get worse in five or 10 years and your legal have to have an operation in 20 years ago worry about it then. Yeah, don’t worry about it then because they’ll have better operations and they can stick in a new leg on for, you know, drug. And, and I go the underlying cause of all this is two factors that linked together. One is inflammation. Yeah. And I’ve mentioned it a few times. And, yeah, inflammation is what our immune system sets up as a way of protecting us. So if you get a virus, you’ve got inflammation, you get really hot. Yeah, okay. You’d get red everywhere or cup, and it gets inflamed. Inflammation inflamed. Yep. It’s almost like a burning to get rid of the nasties in there. Yes. And as a result, it’s fantastic. And it works short term brilliantly. But when you’ve got it when you smoke when you’re obese, when you are diabetic, all of those conditions. Yeah. You have chronic inflammation all the time, low level well established, well established the hours 10s of thousands of studies showing that Okay, that’s how much there is on it. Yes. And it shows you a chronic inflammation. So the drug companies go well, good. We’ll give you some anti inflammatory drugs. Aspirin is a good example. Yes. Which by the way comes from the willow plant, originally, the willow bark, most drugs to even cholesterol meds, the statin drugs come from red rice yeast originally. Yeah, but you can’t use herbs.

 

Bryn 

Well, by mimicking the same chemistry Exactly. I have done two podcasts with a herbalist and gidgegannup who have been talking about exactly this. And

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

what they do is that what they do is they destroy it because they take the active ingredient with all the other super active ingredients around it that helps support it. And they isolate it because they can then tightened it make it come and coming back to it. So we know inflammation. So what’s the best things inflammation? Well, there’s there’s some there’s a group of researchers around the world who came up with the inflammatory dietary index. XI if de, yeah, and if you just go into PubMed and Google that look, you know, do research on it, it’ll come up with 1000 plus studies. And it’s been linked. What they’ve been able to show is that the foods highest in inflammation, ag processed foods, yep. And have the highest risk of every single form of chronic illness, every single form of chronic illness. And so many studies on it and so the more of the junk foods processed food you eat, the higher the risk of all these illnesses and all types of cancer, all types of, you know, this is what I was researching. I wrote a book on this called overcoming illness. Yes, all about inflammation. And I did to get that that’s a plug, by the way. Yeah. And and I put it all together and the studies on it that you know, there’s 1000 easy I get 1000 in in a day just showing the food you ate lead to inflammation. Stress does environmental pollutants do other things can along the way, but that’s caused net is the underlying cause of your immune system being almost exhausted, run down and overreacting to the wrong things. And so when the virus comes in, it sets up, so you don’t die of covid virus, for example, you die of what’s called an inflammatory cascade, right? And the virus gets in there, it gets into the cells, it reproduces and sets up inflammation, your body then responds to it. And it over response it says we’re gonna get rid of the world was gonna get rid of it was gonna get revoked because you’re not doing that you got to get rid of the world. And so all And literally, you’ve got this var, the inflammation, this dynamic. Now similarly, the virus can lead to a bacterial infection, and pneumonia, okay? And as a result, you’ve got the two going and inflammation going everywhere, and you die from excess inflammation triggered by the fact that your inflammation was high in the beginning. That’s a simple way to put it. Yeah, I could go into it if you like. But that’s a simple way to put it. So if we can lower the inflammation, yes, which we can because the dietary inflammatory index says you can. Yep. And they guess what? fruits, nuts VG seeds, beans and supplement with potent anti inflammatories, like your tumeric.

 

 

Yes.

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

You know, enhance tumeric products. Yeah, enhance your product, and your Grapeseed extract your herbs and spices, all of them. And all your all your essential oils. They’re potent anti inflammatory. And by the way, I don’t have a vested interest here. I’m just telling you this because nobody’s got shares in nature. Yeah, no, I, it’s, I sell information. That’s what I do. Yeah, and I get it from the journals. And so we can. At this point, as I said, in the beginning, we are at the pinnacle of being able to get across to people. If you want to reduce your risk of COVID stop bleeding the process ultra processed foods Yeah, stop reading. Yeah. Because what that leads to is malnutrition. overfed undernourished. So in western countries under overfed undernourished and we are malnourished. Yeah. Now I’m going to take a little sidetrack, which I always do. Yeah. And if we go and just look at third world countries, why are there so many deaths in developed countries that don’t necessarily have processing food process? Well, because they’re actually undernourished, under fed and nourished. Yes. You know, there’s However, many hundreds of millions of people around the world who don’t get enough food and importantly enough nutrients, the vitamins, the minerals, the antioxidants, because they’re

 

Bryn 

not necessarily suffering from the inflammation aspect, but they’re just been undernourished. Yep. Yeah.

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

So you know, it’s the opposite to the places like America in Australia where we’re overfed and undernourished, underpaid and undernourished.

 

 

But we’re overfed with With just an

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

overflow over processed ultra there in the journals, they call it the ultra processed foods. And the studies out of the US are showing that over 80% of the diet is now ultra processed foods not processed ultra. And the Australians are going the same way. Yes, the vast majority of the packaged foods is his thing. So my message to your listeners is, first of all, share this information. Because if you don’t share it, it won’t get out there because it won’t be in the media. It won’t be in the politicians handbook. And it won’t be in the in the health authorities pay people from the drug companies. So my message is shared second will act on it. act on it, look up information, learn about inflammation. Go on and check out those alternative blogs. You know, I know people who said are 5g and so on. I have a problem with 5g but that’s not causing comfort. Yeah, you know, all these other people saying this? No, no, no, because the studies are clear. Yes. right at this moment as I see it, I can produce 1000 studies. Yeah, I think there was something like 300 or so linking just diabetes and COVID. Now on the COVID diabetes always, if I give you an example, vitamin D, the sunlight vitamin, yeah, Australians don’t get enough. Vitamin D, and vitamin D, vitamin D is the single best supplement you can take for COVID. Now, what’s interesting is all of the all of the nutritional companies around the world have had peak demand. So the public now when they sold out of all of their supplements, all all the big chemists in nutritional all sold out of their vitamin C and their vitamin D during the peak of COVID in Australia, and around the world. You know why? Because the public are listening to people out there, not the media. Yeah, yeah. And not, you know, there’s, there’s someone in the media saying our vitamin D won’t help. There There are there are hundreds and hundreds of studies linking vitamin D to being a critical nutrient in your immune system. Yeah. Now, as I said, your immune system protects you from the virus and protects you against the virus once you’ve got it. Yes. So the degree of your suffering and risk of death is determined by literally your immune system. So you can understand why vitamin D one alone Yeah, I’m in C. I take three.

 

 

Vitamin C alone say

 

Bryn 

how much time in the sunshine would be? Are we talking 10 2030 minutes?

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

No, as much as you can get? No, but I’m saying as much as you can get. Yeah. Yeah, I’m gonna I’m gonna go in for I’m gonna go see my osteopath because, you know, I just want a rebalancing of my body. Yeah. And I’m gonna walk in there. I’m gonna walk in there with a T shirt and in summer, I get hours every day. Yes, every day that I can, I mean, it’s winter, get out as much. Again, simple concept. Skin cancer is caused by not sunlight. sunlight is a factor in some skin cancers are caused by inflammation. Sunlight can be affected but also diet. So, a good example of that, in your immune system held or linked, is if you’re on immune suppressants of any sort, you dramatically increase your risk of skin cancers. Yep, hold on, but I’ve been out in the sun. Guess what? Your immune system is constantly like the virus is constantly fighting cancers every single day. And so we’d fight them off. Vitamin D is important for it. So you need to get sunlight. Don’t sunburn. Yeah, so fair skin. Minimum. You know how much you can spend out there in the sun, dark skin longer. They’re finding that the biggest spreads around the world were in winter which is what Australia is just gone into. So Millburn. We’ll find it a lot harder to control right now. Because it’s winter, and they’ve been locked up and they’ve been locked up inside. Yeah. So guess what? You’ll find Queensland and why even though we’ve isolated better, we have better results. Why? Because people, there’s you know, it’s a winter’s day in in the middle of in Perth in the middle of winter. And there’s a beautiful day today. 21 degrees bit chilly at night, but I get out and get sunlight. Yeah. And so we’ve got a lot more sunlight. So coming back to it. inflammation is the key trigger. Yeah. Now what’s driving it one is poor nutrition. Yes. Lack of nutrients to it’s your gut health, right? Because around about 80% of your immune system sits around your gut. Yeah, so that 80% of the immune system sits here. So if your guts unhealthy, it’s triggering a constant inflammatory. It will And that’s why you end up with inflammatory bowel disease, inflammatory Irritable Bowel Disease in flat all these gut conditions and we’re talking 20 30% of the population, then you have reflux and reflux is an inflammatory illness. So the first thing when people say how do I fix reflux louhi inflammation, because then you get to the underlying causes. And then it may be a food allergy, or reaction and intolerance or food. It may be the day you know something else but lower the inflammation. And then you get to the underlying conditions and arthritis inflammatory condition. Yeah, dozens and dozens, hundreds of studies on inflammation and arthritis and, and diet and arthritis and these people are locked into having their arthritis whether I have my knees totally ripped apart and reconstructed when I was 1819.

 

 

I was told I’ll never be able to do anything on

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

post 60 I still can Why I have I have arthritis, and I have no pain. I don’t have the inflammation, which triggers the pain, which triggers the arthritis, which exacerbates it and makes it worse. So, you know, what is it? And will it cause a problem later? Yeah, obviously, because it’s a wear and tear we talked about earlier on. And

 

Bryn 

yeah, which is the actual mechanic,

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

the mechanics, there’s damage, I don’t have a college and I got bone on bone, and you know, your body’s doing the best it can. And we’re coming back to it. It’s got. So when people say, Where do I start? Well, the first one is, there’s a we’ve got a group called gut health Australia on Facebook, and it’s 16,000 people, mostly Australian 99%. I’m posting their studies and stories. I post the studies and they post the stories and their questions. And I’ll put two maybe 10 studies a week up there, so people can see what I’m talking about is factual. Yeah. About inflammation and I’ll say inflammation and then people go, aha, okay, so what do I need? Do and then people will post a story and someone will say I’ve got reflux, what do I do? How do I take this? Whereas there’s another other groups over in the US called reflux and stuff and all they do is talk about their medications. Yeah. All they do is talk about the medication. 99% of this stuff is medication. So mine is solution based, gut health Australia solution based but when you understand the garden, you understand that it’s linked with all illness. So a gut dysbiosis or reflux. Get dysbiosis is when your bacteria and your funghi and viruses in your gut are out of balance. And you don’t have enough variety biodiversity. You’re gonna have a rainforest in your gut, yes, and have diverged a minute but the simplest way to get a rainforest is to get off the toxic processed foods and to have the biggest diversity. Yes, I’ve got a green smoothie over there and it’s got 20 ingredients in it. That’s my breakfast. Hmm 20 different ingredients. So coming back, you’ve got we know, the inflammation in your gut, and the bacteria in your gut and the reflex all the way through your gut dramatically increases your risk of all of these chronic illnesses. diabetes, hypertension, risk of heart attack, stroke cancers, and in the animal studies, and now in human case studies are they done one on one, but in the animal studies, they’ve taken animals that are obese, hypertensive, diabetes, diabetic type two,

 

 

and they give them

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

the gut bacteria they got microbiome from a healthy group of mice or humans in fact, humans humans, and they transplanted to the mice and the mice get diabetes. Sorry, that’s from the healthy one. Diabetes reverses. Yeah. And similarly, and the white so they get from the skinny mice and put in the fat mass and fat mass get skinny. Yeah. I put the fat mice microbiome in the cereal and they get fat. Yeah, so even singing Jeez, look around the room for someone smart, intelligent, healthy, skinny and swap the biome. Well guess what? No. Do you sell short term? Do yourself build it up slowly because the research shows that what goes up must come down and to transplant your poo. Do a shit swap your poo. You have to put it up from the bottom. They’re getting tablets nowadays but it turns me off a bit. Yeah tablets with poo in it. But coming back, feed it from above. Feed it from above the herbs or spices how many times you have to say this herb Bryn. You know, our our definition of herbs in our Western culture is pepper. And so great. Both of them. Yeah. My definition is whatever I can get out of my garden. I will walk down the streets in order to 111 the leaf or Rosemary leaf. assertion and flour, an assertion leaves. And then, or the Oregon or my garden and the time and I’ll make up this herb mix that goes on everything. And then I had any other herbs and spices, and then we have the veggies. So any meal we have, it’s like the traditional lamb, Indian carried. It isn’t tumeric it’s a dozen different herbs and spices. They knew they didn’t know why, but they knew that the diversity was critical. Plus talking to them. Yeah. And so you’ve just got to have that biodiversity. So we know the gap. We know malnutrition or under nutrient poor nutrition in our society leads to inflammation which leads to all these diseases. The only problem is we get back to the politics. And people will listen to this and some people go wow, okay, I want to follow more. Great and other people guy, That’s rubbish. I don’t mind what people believe. But remember, I’m basing mine on science. And yours is an opinion. opinions are like belly buttons. Everyone’s got one. Yeah. And when somebody like we had someone on the gut health Australia group saying, This is rubbish. So I asked him where he got his opinion from he didn’t reply. I put up 30 studies. Yeah. 30 studies to just show him and everyone else on the group says, you know, we’re getting this idea from Mike for the other person, he dropped out. Yeah. In fact, you know, let me ask you a question here, because

 

Bryn 

obviously, you use spec. There’s two things here. One is you spend the time reading the articles. Yeah. And for somebody like myself who I have to science based degrees, I understand that it’s almost like another language to have to read and understand what they’re actually saying, you know, and my ability to read psychology articles in psychology journals. I was quite fit in those days. I tried to Reading recently I got fatigued after a year. And because I had to engage my brain another well, so you obviously have the capacity to read and digest the information. And obviously you you have the space and time to do that. Now, it strikes me that there’s almost been an abuse of misuse of science, particularly of recent because science at times becomes this. I’ve likened it to, it’s a new religion whereby a scientist said, as a so we all bow down and we all go do, you know, and you could cynically say, well, that’s what’s happened with COVID-19 and the models that came out of Imperial College and all that sort of stuff.

 

 

Yet,

 

Bryn 

as we, as we know, there, there are smart people whose hearts in the right place they’re doing good research. All the time and then it’s going into journals. I for one, was amazed that the vast amounts of knowledge in psychology journals, which would be hugely applicable to the mental and emotional well being of people on an everyday basis, but just barely any of that trickles through into permeate into everyday life. And and so we’ve almost got this misuse whereby scientists say so we all bow down Go do and then you know, you only need somebody with like PhD written after their name and don’t do so. And so you pop them on a platform on a daytime TV programme given 45 seconds to hit a few taglines and that’s like,

 

 

there you go. And yet

 

Bryn 

the science has, you know, is it we have to remember it’s an evolving evidence base Converse. Yeah, almost like conversation. And you know, the everyday person and the person But an everyday person hasn’t necessarily got the time

 

 

not to do that. And so how do we

 

Bryn 

reconcile that? Look, it’s it’s equally when you, you know, if something’s going in one direction, it only takes one media a up or one thing to pull it all down in. You’ve been on the real blunt end of that. And to pull that down, kill credibility.

 

 

Yep,

 

Bryn 

absolutely. And for the better word, fuck it all over. Yeah, yep. So how do we navigate our way through this because like, what you’re saying to me today about the inflammation and the herds in the diet and this that the other. I’ve heard from lots of sort of different sources. And when I say gels with you, doesn’t it? It does. It absolutely gels with me. I’ve heard it from different I’ve had it I’ve been I’ve said I’ve been speaking to people I’ve spoken to about the gut by a bone before or I’ve listened to Got my info. I’ve listened about Herbes. I’ve listened about, you know, making choices taking responsibility for lots of different ways. But then it’s getting it’s getting the information. It’s staying on top of what where is the latest evidence based compensation heading? How can I give that a go and

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

see what I mean? Yeah, the key, it’s very complex. Okay. So I’m fortunate. I was an academic at university. Yep. So I, apart from my two undergraduate degrees, and my PhD, I then was a, an academic for 20 years, 21 years. And that enabled me to have a research team, and to get all the research done in the areas that I wanted to. Yes. And it enabled me to develop the skills. Now I don’t have all the skill set. So I’ve read articles and I cringe What are they talking about, you know, the deep biochemistry. What I’m interested in is just the outcome. Yeah, so the abstract of the abstract and I read that, okay, I cannot send lots of it. The bits I can’t well then I’ll go What did they find at the end? Yeah, it was conclusion. Yeah. What was the conclusion on the abstract? Yeah. So when I say I, you know,

 

Bryn 

yeah. Going into test what did the

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

Yeah. And look on a day, I’ll read them 30 or 40 abstracts and two papers. Yeah, the papers that I want to go into more depth. And but I’ll read the abstracts. Yeah. And I’ll collect those and I’ll put them in my, my, you know, box of keeping things and then go. And, and so people go, Well, you know, where is the reliable evidence? Well, people traditionally have trusted the doctors, doctors aren’t researchers. Hmm. They cannot keep up to date. No, I’m a full time researcher. I can do this because I’m semi retired. I can do this because when when I travel around the country, I write my books and I sell my books. I can do this because I’ve got a few other little streams of income coming in. I can afford to do it this way. Yes. If I was 20 years of age, I couldn’t vote 30 or 40. I couldn’t but You know, now I can. So that enables me to do that. Now the next thing to ask is okay, what are the vested interests, all of the drug company, also all of the studies on the pharma the benefits of pharmaceutical drugs have been done by drug company money. And you can skew any study you want, and the outcome of it, and the results. So I read a study and it shows that it’s reduced the risk of a heart attack by 1% over four and a half years, and the scientists say and this is a huge impact. Oh God, once a huge have an almond today.

 

Bryn 

Yeah, and you don’t just get the benefit, but you have all the positive. So coming back before I invested $10,000 and I got 1% return on investment, I would not class that is

 

 

and the

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

side effects and but you know, or people go off the drugs because of the side effects.

 

 

But coming back to it

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

Coming, coming back. Yeah. So you look for people who don’t have the vest in your health department has a vested interest. It’s all linked to with politics. I’ve been in meetings with health department, they said we can’t do this because politics, they’re not allowed to say veggies. You know, veggies are good will reduce your risk of COVID. Because someone will say, Show me the studies. Well, I can’t show you the studies. But I can show you that veggies lower inflammation and inflammation is linked to COVID. Yeah. But hold on, but then I’ll ever say that. And, you know, and I can tell you that the hundreds and thousands of studies showing that information, the latter Now, why don’t they politics, politics, and I can tell you right now, they have more meetings with the pharmaceutical companies in Canberra and here than they do with the public on health, school public health, but it’s a pharmaceutical health. That’s the health department here and the top officials. I know I’ve been there. I’ve had the meetings. I I used to have meetings with them. The politicians used to like me a long time ago until I got to, you know, I delved into the areas that they didn’t like. And so yeah, so it’s you look at those and go, No, they’re not your best interest. Your doctors have your best immediate interests at heart. They don’t. They don’t know. They’re great people. I’ve got lots and lots of Doctor friends. They’re lovely people. And they helped me out when I’ve got something that I need. So where do you get the information wrong? Well, the internet. Dr. Google is so much better yet get get your diagnosis and get your information from your GP and so on. But when it comes to treatment, look it up. And then find out how many of these people are saying it. The weight of evidence. Yeah. Do you give credibility? So there’s a guy makalah I think McConnell’s great, you know, I don’t agree with him. Tim said at the time, but 90% of what he says i think i agree with and there’s some other people out there. A couple of doctors and medical doctors out there. Have a website and they’re publishing this stuff all the time, find them. And it, listen to what I’m saying. And if you look for what they’re saying, if they have inflammation and diabetes, then follow them and get it from them. And you’ll see it varies a little bit from what I’m saying, because we’re all the different levels of our research. Yes. So but find the people and the systems that you can trust. Now, I’ll have people again, come out and say, I’ve got no credibility. I don’t mind. I don’t want to get a PhD, an undergraduate degree, or they’re gonna, if they go to the studies, they’re bloody good. And they show the studies not one. But as I said, just a group alone. I’ll put up a dozen studies and another group I’ve got natural health and healing opera up another dozen studies. So I speak with the studies and I give a little interpretation here a two liner, three liner for people to understand And then they have a discussion and debate underneath it. So they get more interaction from other people. And look at that. And we’re talking again got health Australia, we’re talking. In just under two years, we’ve got 716 forgotten, so I think it’s actually getting under 17,000. Next week, we’ll hit 17,000 people. That’s how many people are turning to gut health. And they’re coming from all directions from arthritis and so on. Because they want some information. They don’t want the drug. The vicious cycle of the pharmaceutical drug takers, more people die from the legal drugs and the illegal drugs, the opium abuse around the world. The illegal opium abuse, painkiller abuse around the world. I know so many I know people where it’s destroyed their lives. Yeah. And it’s okay, are we controlling it? But yeah, to a degree, and it’s just putting him on. You know, there are so many solutions out there and it’s in the studies you So what we, as a collective group of scientists are doing is just putting it out there, and we’ll run aground will run aground but with all these visitors, but I will literally turn around and say to the health department, they tell it debate on it. Yeah. Let’s have a discussion, a public discussion. Let’s get a reputable lawyer or a judge. That can be the emcee? Yep. Okay. Can someone without a vested interest in Yeah, okay. It has the concentration

 

Bryn 

span in the depth

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

of a PhD science to something in something, and let’s have a discussion on it. And let’s get to pros and two cons, and discuss it. So, you know, and all I would do is, I would go in with a PowerPoint presentation. And I’d show here’s a study, study, one study to study three or 435 studies here. And they’ll come in and say, Well, no, you can’t say that. But this is what study says, Oh, no, you can’t say that. This is what the study says. So but nobody has taken me up. A long time ago, I did a radio interview on cholesterol medication. And the pharmaceutical company rang up. And they said, We’d like to give a different opinion. And the bob moment was on six PR. And he said, no problem. You can come in next week. But Dr. Dingell will be here. And again note we don’t want to be we don’t want to have an interview with him. Because that no one just say, Well, okay, you said it’s 30%. But out of 100 people, how many people how many heart attacks will reduce our well, One study showed it was up to 1%. When you turn it into information that people can interpret, yes. Then at all I do, and so they won’t have a debate. They won’t have a discussion. This COVID It’s crazy. against it crazy. It’s crazy because we know, we know and I think hope there’s a royal commission into it. I really hope we have a royal commission into the deaths from COVID. But the rules aren’t limited. And it says, Why? Why did they die? And why the information wasn’t made available to the public? Why isn’t? You know, like I’ve said, a few times already people going out and saying, Do you know that you can reduce your risk of COVID and I’ve done 100 post blogs on that specifically, by just improving your nutritional status. You know, why isn’t somebody saying that? We can get the economy back going. But no, we want a disease economy. We want a sickness system. And we want these people to be morbidly ill with their diabetes and heart attacks and high blood pressure instead of fixing the underlying problem. Yeah. Is there a panacea Is there a Silver Bullet? No, there’s not. It’s a lifestyle and diet changes. But the information is so clear cut now. Yeah. You know, I would just love that opportunity to like through here just to get that message out and say, Okay, if you don’t believe me, go to PubMed pubmed.com. And that’s the scientific journals. Yep. Okay, and there are millions of them and just put in vitamin D, and COVID COVID or Coronavirus or something like that. Yeah. See many sites come up. Just click on one of them. And just read that bottom conclusion. There’ll be one the site’s not gonna work. Let’s try companies wanted that to be 99 per se. Yes, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. You know, um, they did the the vitamin D levels in COVID victims. And I found that the, the lowest vitamin D levels had the highest mortality. And the highest vitamin D had the lowest mortality. And what was good in science was good in this study. And so I showed that it was a, it was a dose response relationship. In other words, the more vitamin D, the less mortality or morbidity, suffering and death and those who had the highest levels of vitamin D, which by the way, isn’t just vitamin D, an indicator of good nutrition. Okay, so understand that people don’t get it but it’s links isn’t it? It’s all it’s all linked together and good gut health and low inflammation at all link

 

Bryn 

is at least 10 this leads to that and if there’s a pen, and it shows up shows up show

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

Yeah. So if you’ve got low vitamin D, the the impact and by the way, the research shows if you’ve got diabetes, hypertension and obese you have low vitamin D. Oh, hold on. All if they say no comes around, and it just keeps going around that inflammation and I go, Okay, how are we going to change it? I just put up another post and another study. I can’t keep up with the studies on it. That’s how how many there are over 100 just on vitamin D and, you know, covid 19 How do you as a

 

Bryn 

person who’s obviously driven to want to do good in the world reconcile that. You put this stuff out and the and the the papers are there yet? There’s just this almost like quietness or blankness that gets me met with him.

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

I just hope. Yes. I just hope. I just hope, these health official and I just hope these politicians will begin to open up and be honest, I really do. Everyone says the politicians are lying. They don’t even know because it’s not fair to them and so on. But this information is now getting through. They have to Yeah, the health department has to know about the role of vitamin D. They have to know it’s been in the papers. Yeah, you know, it’s already in the paper in the UK, in Ireland, in a dozen countries around the world the government’s are recommending go out and get vitamin D.

 

 

Oh, geez, hold on.

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

So, you know, why aren’t wait because Australia is only second to America in terms of the control of the drug companies have over the health department. Yeah. And it’s scary. Yeah, it’s scary. They have so much influence and you wonder what the trillion the richest companies in the world, they have the most disposable income. They market most most of it goes to the doctors and the system. And yes, they still get free trips and they still get bonuses and, you know, and and so on. But at the end, they just got so much money. And I’m passionate. I just can’t I can’t stand seeing people Die and suffer,

 

 

unnecessarily?

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

unnecessarily Yeah, we have enough catastrophes like the fires are in Australia, and the floods around the world and all these other things. To not not introduce all these human made ones human constructs, the pandemic, the virus is real. The pandemic is political. The spread around the world is political. Who’s driving it now? You can be cynical inside is, is a lot of money involved trillion dollars, how much has been invested in vaccines, you know, you know, vaccines Just a moment. I don’t normally go there. But if you take the flu vaccine and you’re over, I think it’s 65. It’s ineffective unless you take probiotics. That’s what the studies show. Now, if you’re under 65, it is effective. But it doesn’t stop you getting it and it allows The the severity of it by minuscule few hours of recovery time. And all this hype about it, you know, and the same with the hype about COVID-19. vexing. Nothing will ever compare to good nutrition. Yes, nothing. It’s called evolution. But drugs have been a 50 years evolution, how evolutionary pathways have been here for for 10s of millions of years. Yeah, hundreds of millions. If you want to go back that far, you know, three or 4 million since we’ve been upright semi humans. Yeah. So you know, it’s all nutrition, there is no way around it. No drug can ever replace, or will ever replace any nutrients you get for food, nothing. And so when it comes to COVID, the single best factor people can do which is build up the nutrition with all the foods they’re eating, start supplementing lots more so beta at this point in time

 

 

Yeah, and and Include vitamin C daily.

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

Oh, absolutely. And learn and learn and ask and ask questions. And when somebody says to you, oh, that’s rubbish. Just ask them. So where’s your evidence? So I don’t shut them up straight away. I read the paper. You know, where is it? So I’m driven and I always have been that stuff I did on tobacco smoke. 20 years ago, I was doing a lot of research on tobacco smoke, the measuring the monitoring people’s attitude, how to increase the, you know, getting people off smokes. My study led to the banning of it in clubs and pubs. Did I get rich off now? Do you know what? I feel good or bad? And every year, I released new information about all of these things and people you know, gut health. If everyone if everyone spent $1 a day on gut health, there’s something called k fibre right. Okay. Now I have to declare a vested interest in this because I liked it so much after one year, I bought shares in it got almost 0.001% shareholder, right? So if you buy a packet, I don’t make any money on it. So you have to get the idea. Okay, but that’s my take go. It’s such a, it’s a biscuit food you’ll ever find. Right? And it costs 20 cents or 50 cents a day. Yeah, it’s a complete gut food mix of fibres every that grind up all your nuts and seeds and eat more nuts and seeds. How simple

 

 

vitamin C, I take three grammes a day.

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

Vitamin D, I have a little bit in the middle of winter. Most of the time I don’t d3 By the way, vitamin d3 and then these other ones I haven’t invested interest and just get back to you know having as much if I don’t if you can see here but this is the normal and normal plate for us that we got two bowls of yeah and fruit in there. And now But I’ve got my veggie garden out the back and so on. And we just leave on veggies and fruit. Yes, we have made. I’ve made it. Yeah. Because we are what I call opportunistic eaters. And I love fish and I have fish and bit of meat a bit of fish every day. more fish than me. Yeah, but, but it’s all based around fruit nuts, veggie beans, spices, Herbes and all those things. So I practice what I preach. And you know what, I get a virus. I do. And I get knocked out by it. Two years ago, I got one. I got knocked out by it. And three days later, I was recovered. Four days later, I was giving a talk public talk on a cruise ship, by the way. So we still get it. Yeah. But your system now coming back to it. If you’ve got a good gut microbiome, your gut microbiome is linked to your respiratory microbiome. Yeah, and your researching microbiome determines your vulnerability to getting the infection. Yeah. And how severe it’ll be. So if we’re looking at your gut microbiome, this comes back to the inflammation in nutrition. Yep. You look after this, by looking after this, you then prevent or reduce your risk of contagion catching something. And this is what’s what’s unique about this virus. covid is it’s very contagious. But you’ll reduce your risk of getting infection because it has to go in there. And if you’re going to rainforest of microbiome in your healthy respiratory system, it’s got to compete with it, yes. Then start to reproduce, and I’m sorry, then getting the cells and then start to reproduce. That’s what a virus does. It gets into the cells and replicates itself. Yep. But if you can’t get in there, because you’ve got this rain forest of healthy gut microbiome, who are producing all the antiviral antibacterial chemicals that are poisoning it, so we can actually reduce your susceptibility, then your immune system is primed. So when you get it, you get flu like symptoms. Yeah. And you get on with it and you get on with it. Wow.

 

Bryn 

Well, Have you learned about yourself in this journey?

 

 

Ah, look.

 

 

What am I not? I love doing this. Yeah. I love

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

informing people about science. I love encouraging people about science. And I hear scientists out there all the time. There’s a popular scientist out there. He’ll go, you know, this is not linked to that and go go, and I’ll go, you have not had time to look at it. Yeah. And I cringe. And I go, Well, I’d love to be able to teach people to read the journals. Yeah, it’s so complex. Just go to the conclusion of the, you know, yeah, just look at the number of studies. And you might not even understand the titles of some of them, but there’ll be some you can, and I think everyone should have to do a health research degree. Yeah. It is save save us all. And our economy billions and billions of dollars a year. Anyway, coming back. I’ve learned I love helping people. I’m passionate about research because it’s clarity for me. Yeah. And what I found is one of my greatest skills is the ability to put everything else out there together into a story. So, you know, I have a package for reflux, and it’s not one package. reflux isn’t one disease. hypertension is not one disease, if one disease one drug get treated, okay? It’s not, there are multiple factors underlying it, you know, it’s like a little pyramid of the things going up there. And here’s the hypertension. And here’s the and so I love putting together in fact, I think it’s the first time ever mentioned publicly or whatever, I don’t think anyone ever talked about and knows about it, but I am building up something called hypertension profiling. Right. And again, medicine works for giving one drug to every person and hoping it works. And it has a 10% factor. So you can be on five drugs in my work. I am creating a system where you can actually use Look at people, ask them what their diet lifestyle and everything is and say okay, what we know is that you probably got what’s called toxin. high potential. Yeah, you’re having too much fluoride in your toothpaste. You know what we know what’s interesting about it? I’ll give you an example the stupidity of medicine, and the brilliance of science, the stupidity of medicine. We know how to create hypertension in mice. Yeah. There are a dozen ways that we take that and go Okay, we can create it in mice. Can we do the exact opposite and reverse it? No, we’re human. So one of the ways to create hypertension is Mike mice is to give them fluoride and create our potential in mice. Hold on, we got fluoride in their toothpaste in our water and oil dental products. So is that causing more hypertension, or another way that they cause hypertension is mice is give re fried foods to the mice. The equivalent of fish and chips. Yeah, I’ll give it to the mice and the mice to help hypertension. And so they’re Oh hold on Let’s give him a drug instead of getting them off the the reef fried food. sugar. Sugar is the simplest way to actually induce This is what science shows induce hypertension in mice in the study so that they can work out a drug. So why don’t you just get people off sugar

 

 

to see the stoop so this is great medicine is

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

crazy. arthritis. Let me give you another an utterly unrelated an arthritis because to induce arthritis in mice, so that they can test the drug on it. They stopped them producing collagen, now called MMS collagen is in your skin but it’s all your connective tissue right from your ligaments and things, but all of your intestines are made out of it. Yeah, and, and scurvy. In the old days scurvy is a is a collagen deficiency because college is made out of vitamin C. Yes. Okay. So what happened to induce scurvy or a collagen deficiency in the guts of animals, they stopped the biochemical process. And they stopped the collagen being formed in the gut. And the mice develop arthritis. And so then they give the mice a drug to test rather than going back and saying what’s causing the scurvy in the guy? Well, hold on, was the mechanism.

 

Bryn 

arthritis in

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

the first place? Yeah. science, medicine, science is that, you know, I understand the need to create it and test it. But then you go back and say, Okay, if I want to stop arthritis, what would I do? But I’d rebuild the gut lining. And I’m talking osteoarthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, all that because also, by the way, they’re inflamed, inflammation driven, which comes from the gut. So can you get rid of all of it? No. Can you dramatically reduce it? Yes. How do I know 10,000 people a year I speak to we get comments every single day. Thank you. Thank you. And all we did We teach people to reverse their arthritis and rebuild the gut lining How? Well there’s a dozen things and every reasons different stress can be one that by the way, that initiated and stop your digestion if you’re not digesting, you know, it’s, it’s, it’s simple if you spend a bit of time, and so it’s rebuilding your health and digestion and nutrients and good food, and then everything starts to flow out there. And in the process of reversing your arthritis, you reverse your diabetes and you lower your blood pressure. you lower your risk virtually every single cancer out there, you lower risk of colorectal cancer, and breast cancer and prostate cancer. And all you’re doing is rebuilding you got to get rid of arthritis. Wow,

 

 

what a great drug.

 

Bryn 

Awesome. The last question I asked all my guests, and I think we’ve already been given a big chunk of this answer but last question I asked all my guests is, if you could upload one level nuggets of information into the collective consciousness. Everyone just gets it.

 

 

What would fix the guy fix it?

 

 

Fix the guy.

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

It’s not the only thing to do. But it’s a simpler strategy. And we now know the gut. There’s only been one condition that I can’t find any studies linked to the God. Okay. So when it comes to diabetes, one, diabetes one, the incidence of diabetes one is linked to the gap. Yeah. Parkinson’s, linked to the gap. All these conditions are linked to the gap. Then we’ve got all the ones I’ve mentioned. And m right through to acne, the two drugs that they use

 

Bryn 

to talk about serotonin and depression. Yeah,

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

absolutely. You know, there’s nothing that is not linked to the gut. And if you fix the gut is everything gonna resolve? No. But you can reduce everything by 5% or 10%, or 20% or 80%. And something’s totally resolved in reverse. By working on the gut because working on the god he’s working with your evolution and everything. The big one of the sidetrack on the gap. There’s a fantastic drug out there. I rarely say that. But there’s a fantastic drug out there called Metformin, Metformin they give to diabetes to help manage blood sugar levels, blood sugar levels in the diabetes in the studies on diabetes and COVID. It’s the blood sugar management levels, that is the determining factor for mortality. And by the way, fibres and nutrients coming back. I have to get on the gut health Australia to find out more about that. But coming back to it Metformin is originally derived from the African literally plant, so it’s a herb okay, but they’ve developed it, they painted it solid as a drug. And it’s really good, because it helps control blood sugar levels in 2030 40% of patients. And they’ve now found that people who have Metformin lower the incidence of covid 19. Oh, now find that it lowers the incidence of lots of other chronic illnesses. But if you inject it, it doesn’t work. It goes To the gap, and the only reason it goes to the gap and works is because the gap transform it and the gap bacteria. It’s what we would normally call a prebiotic, something that treats the gut microbiome. Yeah. So all of a sudden this miracle drug linked to reducing Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s, and even covid, 19, miracle drug, the trees, the gut, and you can get that same same. And the problem with Metformin, it’s one thing and you’ll get needs many. Yes, as I said, my green smoothie over there has 20 different ingredients in it minimal. Every meal, I have a dozen different ingredients in it minimal. And so you feed the gap and fixing the gut is the I suppose the fire that gets the healing going. It’s the stuff that if you just work on it in it, introduce one or two things every week, don’t expect miracles. Yeah, if you want miracles, invest in it more your time. If it were harder yet. And people say it’s a robot or something for typewriter paper. probiotics then take probiotics after you feed the gut, the gut with good nutrients, because the probiotics in your gut no good microbiome in your gut. Yeah. And the probiotics usually rely on food that you eat. And that’s down there. We get stronger for gym session. Yeah, exactly. And taking a packet of probiotics is a waste of space and time, unless you’re going to work on a gut healing strategy. And that’s what we teach people the simple things start with the gut, start with the gut, start with the guy and gut simple gut foods and and it all just comes back to I’m sure what you’ve been talking bring with lots of people as the nutrition you ate, there is no way around it. No way. Simple

 

Bryn 

page has been awesome talking to you today.

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

My pleasure. I think

 

Bryn 

if people want to find you, where do they

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

look, the best one is just I’ve got Facebook groups got health Australia, and that’s our biggest and dynamic while it’s a private group because people put up private information but if you just search gut health Australia You get a lot of information and then do a search on it to whatever topic you want. It’s thousands of topics on and we’ll get another one called natural health and healing remedies. Yeah. And that’s when I started about six months ago and that’s really people are interested in different things other than the gun and again, I’ll put the studies up there otherwise my website Dr. Dingell calm there’s a lot of videos up there for you. We’ve got free videos on all of these topics, free blogs, all that stuff and if you like this we actually have a membership. Yeah, and as a blatant advertising for the membership is $75 for a year and will have by the end of the year 20 to 30 hours of videos and hundreds of hours of written stuff up there for people so all the all the presentations I do I now video, yes. And put up in our membership site. And the whole aim of the membership site is so that we can have a small income coming in. Yeah. Did you As to find me to do more research yeah and then I can do the research to put more up to get more people in and so on. And so

 

Bryn 

as long as it’s not by a new boat or

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

now I’m not in a boat I have a simple life a simple foods, you know, I really am my treasure in my day just going out and my walk and my swims and things like that. And my grandkids Yeah, pick him up every day after school and whole school holidays. And that’s my treasures. So you know, I would never will be a millionaire from it. And I don’t need to be I just, I just am aiming to earn an income from it, to keep doing it. Because the more I can do the more I can get out there more and get out the more we can change the world. One person one talk. So that’s our membership. Best thing anyone will ever invest in their lives and date.

 

Bryn 

Peter, thank you,

 

Dr. Peter Dingle 

Pleasure, buddy. Cheers.

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