#169 The Greater Power of Sound – Christine Morrison

This week, I had the great pleasure of speaking to Christine Morrison, WA based musician, composer, music alchemist and sound healer.

While I featured guests of a similar ilk previously on the podcast, what makes this really different is the fact that over the last four months I myself have been working with Christine to explore sound for myself. So rather than this being a theoretical discussion, it’s very much starts off as an experiential discussion with Christine providing deeper context. This includes how I’ve myself now use sound to connect into my body and how that has led to a number of experiences which I could say rival certain psychedelic experiences.

From that Christine talks about how her work with sound came into her life – which is something she didn’t really want to start with but she shares her process of letting go  and answering the call.

Christine is a super grounded lady with a deep history of working with sounds that includes indigenous links which really sets the tone for this discussion about using sound as a modality to really bring us back into our body at a time when it’s easy to be just swept up and swept away by our minds.

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Bryn 

This week, I had the great pleasure of speaking to Christine Morrison who’s based here in Western Australia. Christine is a musician, composer, music Alchemist and sound healer, although I don’t think she prefers to be called sound healer anymore.

 

Now I featured people of a similar ilk before on the podcast. But what makes this really different is the fact that over the last three or four months I myself have been working with Christine. And we talked about that a great depth. So rather than this being a theoretical discussion, it’s very much starts off as an experiential discussion. And we talked about how I interacted with her offerings and been to a retreat and learn how to use sounding as a way of really connecting into me and my body and how that led to a number of experiences which I could say rival certain psychedelic experiences.

 

From that Christine talks about how this came into her life. It’s very much something she didn’t really want to start with. But she had to sort of let go and answer the call into that. And from there again, we have quite grounded discussion about using things like sounding and sound as a modality to really bring us back into our body at a time when it’s easy to be just swept up and swept away.

 

This is a great this great discussion, Christine’s super grounded and you get a lot from it. She’s really is particularly with her connections to indigenous support. along her journey, you really get a feeling that she’s almost like the OG of the sounding and sound healing world. So enjoy Christine.

 

Bryn 

Hello, welcome back to WA Real. I’m your host Bryn Edwards. Today I have the great pleasure of welcoming Christine Morrison. Christine, welcome to the podcast. Hey

 

Christine Morrison 

You My pleasure,

 

Bryn 

indeed. So for those who don’t know you, you are a musician, composer, teacher, but also musical Alchemist. Is that a fair summary? Yes,

 

Christine Morrison 

yes. That’s how I am. attempt to describe myself. Yes.

 

Bryn 

And and there’s there’s a whole thing in there about connecting soul music isn’t the

 

Christine Morrison 

Yes. It’s what

 

Bryn 

does straight off the bat What? When we talk about connecting to soul what does that actually mean for you?

 

Christine Morrison 

Well That in itself has been my life of discovery and it’s a continual discovery

 

Bryn 

Yes.

 

Christine Morrison 

Of. For me it’s I had this yearning years ago of, of I wasn’t doing what I was meant to be doing and I didn’t know what I was meant to be doing. And I didn’t know that that was a yearning from the soul. And I feel like is, I hear the music of my soul of your soul love of all different things. So it Listening to and it’s that connection with love as well, like we are love. So it’s what what is that connection? I’m still discovering it’s an ongoing Yeah, during discovery.

 

Bryn 

So we’ll dive into your story of how you came to do what you do. But I thought we would just start with because for those who are listening to this, this isn’t the first time you and I have met, we’ve been on a bit of a journey of recent with me and sound and you introducing me to sound so I thought we’d start by just going through that, and then that gives the listeners some opportunity to understand what to do in a real sense, which would be kind of fun, because it’s, it’s been a giggle. Yes. So we were introduced a couple of months ago, and we chatted about what you did, which we’ll get into more in a minute. And the first thing out of the box was I came along We did a soul impression session. So from my point of view, as I came along, I sat in the lovely, comfortable IKEA chair with some headphones on. And you played music to me for about half an hour, which was recorded on a CD. But that’s what that’s that’s what an outsider would have seen. What was what was it you’re actually doing in those soul impression sessions?

 

Christine Morrison 

Well, first, I like working with intention. Yeah, I find I found out years ago that I just would hear people’s music. And I didn’t want to do that. I was like, No, I felt that was quite invasive. But it was my learning of this is what I can do. So now, I don’t do it to people walking past or when I make them or anything. It’s only when they come for a session. So I when I look at your name, it’s like I feel The vibration of your soul with your birthday. Don’t do numerology but yeah, it’s like I feel your soul essence. And then I’m starting to hear the music. And I like working with intention. So how what how do you want to be? What do you want your music to create? So this is not just music, it’s your vibrational tool for change. Yes. So with the intention, your name and your birthdate. I just know the beginning of the music that I’m about to do for you. And I just know how to start. And for me, it’s in a no mind states. Yeah. No thinking if I think I’ll stuff it up. Yeah. So it’s actually just okay, this is this is your intention and I focused on the end result. Okay, this is how you want to be. This is your future self saying, hey, look at me. I am in For me it was a sense of coming home or with ease and grace. And that’s what I focus on. For me, it’s not to know all you need to do this, this and this for me it’s holding this space and allowing the music to come through for you to empower yourself so you know you have the or the inner knowing that all comes to you with or this is what I need to do next or not. And whatever comes so I just continually play the music. I just keep

 

Bryn 

music that comes through you what’s coming

 

Christine Morrison 

next, my fingers know where to go. Wow. And it just happens and I feel I feel what you feel I have different insights and everything that comes and goes it just continually moves through me. And if something really really stays with me, I know I’m to mention it at the end. Yes, otherwise it’s about what what did you feel? What did you experience? So I just continually go and then I know it’s time to stop. If I’m to do another track, I go to another track and then I just know it’s the end. Yes. So um

 

Bryn 

So you you are literally you know how to start but you don’t know what’s coming next. Which is I mean, I’m not a musician like that sounds lightning

 

Christine Morrison 

next because I keep going. Yeah, stop but I can’t tell you.

 

Bryn 

But I imagine for most musicians who play off a score that’s very counterintuitive.

 

Christine Morrison 

Yes, because people need the need the dots, you know, and all the Knights to play and to me that just gets in the way. When I when I compose I do it I do it exactly that way I watch this music for what am I creating this music for what feeling or emotion or sometimes it’s just overwhelms me and I can’t stop thinking about it. So I sometimes quite often it used to be in the middle of the night it’s like to get up and I’ll record it. Not ever thinking I’ll do anything with it. And then I realise are this is helping people with back pain or it’s helping people with grief depending what it’s to do with I have a sense of what it’s for. Yeah. And and then if I’m tonight hate it, I notate it after I’ve actually recorded it.

 

Bryn 

notated as in this is what is writing the music, right? Anybody

 

Christine Morrison 

if I want to then play the music, right as a school, I’ll write it from what I’ve written. What I’ve not played before No, afterwards.

 

Bryn 

And like I said, I’m not a musician. That’s counted. That’s sort of counterintuitive. Is that correct? to how most musicians work?

 

Christine Morrison 

Well, for other people. It’s not for me. Yeah. Yeah. for other people. Yeah. Yeah, they would want to play the music.

 

Bryn 

Yeah. And so after we finished, it finished playing music. I remember sitting there in quite a very trancy state for quite some time. And I remember distinctly opening my eyes and you’re just looking at me and said, Now just close your eyes stay with him as in, like, just because the music’s over it doesn’t mean it’s finished. Yeah, exactly. And so I sat with it for quite some time. And and there were a few things that I saw during that. And then finally, I felt like I was grounded. And yeah, I could open my eyes and start interacting with you in the world. Yeah. But then one of your suggestions was to listen to it again within 24 hours. And this heaviness still stayed with me for quite for nearly a week, as in distinctly something had changed. And I think we spoke twice on the phone, didn’t we? And then you invited me back and then he introduced me to sounding which was like something else as well.

 

Christine Morrison 

But you also knew that and I’ll just Go back to when you were sitting without the music. And that thing in the silence is so important after Why, why did he do sound? Because those vibrations are still moving through you. Yeah. And just because you can audibly hear something doesn’t mean that something’s still going on. And I often wonder, to me, I always say, Oh, that’s where the gold is. That’s where things can happen. We’re in this, another space, another realm, another dimension, whatever, however you want to describe

 

Bryn 

it.

 

Christine Morrison 

This is where we can make the changes really clear stuff really manifest things. And we’ve got to let that process happen. Often people will. If they’re doing like the gong or playing music or something, they’ll stop and write. Let’s go into the next thing. And you must sit in that silence. The silence is such an important part. Yes, I’ve working with sound as you experienced, and it’s moving through then you’ve got to kick your Breath going. Yeah, and there’s a settling period. And then at all I can just see vibrationally it’s all happening and then I know are. Okay, we’re all coming back into alignment now.

 

Bryn 

Yeah. So

 

Christine Morrison 

rather than saying, okay, off you go, you wouldn’t be able to drive?

 

Bryn 

No, honestly, if I left straightaway, a crash.

 

Christine Morrison 

Exactly. And that’s my responsibility to make sure you’re in the right space. So people often leave more grounded than they’ve ever been. And a comment is they feel really tall. It’s really interesting. People say, really tall.

 

Bryn 

Yes. It’s very true. I did actually I felt almost like all the parts of the vertebrae in my spine are just sort of opened out and I felt tall and unlight. Yeah, not dragged down. Yeah. That there still was some residual heaviness for at least a week. And then he invited me to come back and then we were actually

 

Christine Morrison 

sound Voice voice

 

Bryn 

using my voice so, you know, best way for me to describe that was you invited me to breathe in, and then out and then whatever noise or sound

 

Christine Morrison 

I’d like to. I like to just

 

Bryn 

not sound Yeah, sound, there was a bit noisy at time sound comes out. And within no time, all of a sudden I was off into different states and different places. And it was something else and all from just using my voice to make sound. And none of it was conscious as in or now I’m going to make a sound that’s like this. It just went and I remember at one point, wailing like an old woman.

 

Christine Morrison 

Yeah and, and because this this it’s to the point cursor two that is having that right space set up. So you need to be standing in a safe sacred space and be really grounded. Yeah, for all of that to happen, because you can imagine you just could just go off. Yeah. And be totally separated from yourself. So I find it’s far more expansive. When you’re held in this really grounded anchored space in a safe space. Yeah. And then all of this can happen. And it’s

 

Bryn 

Yeah, xiety or any of that

 

Christine Morrison 

feeling because Yeah, because everyone thinks they’re going to do this beautiful, pure angelic sound, but what we’re doing is matching that vibration for you, again, to release and again, we were focusing on that end result. Yes, that end intention of how you want to feel. So whatever had to come was this and often with dissonance or sounds that you call noise, and some of them can sound pretty horrible. Yeah, but that is matching it and that it’s almost like a scouring pad you can imagine yes a bit like a scouring pad. Yes. going like this spiralling it out and releasing it, which is allowing this beautiful sound to come through. So that wailing was actually a nice. Yeah, Sam very powerful,

 

Bryn 

very surprising when it came out, but all of us like, Oh my god, yeah, this is coming from me. Yeah. Then when the energy sort of dropped out of the voice, then it was again this sitting in this very trancy meditative state. And I had sort of had these clear visions of me being a librarian in my enormous library, and then I had these enormous angelic wings, which I’ve subsequently found as a lot to do with sort of processing emotions and and, you know, bringing stuff in and then sending it out. And that I think since then, I pretty much done some sounding most mornings, whether it’s for 20 seconds in the shower, or a good 20 minutes. And that coupled with the tremoring during the tour very similar as it

 

Christine Morrison 

activates the tremoring often Yes, especially when you’ve done tremoring

 

Bryn 

Yes, with the to do one another I find some days the that’ll activate the tremor and sometimes the tremor and can all of a sudden bring out this amazing sound. And the two are very much just letting go and seeing what happens. So the two are very interlinked. And it it’s just been a super weapon, once of a better phrase.

 

Christine Morrison 

And that’s what I love about it because you can do something you can do so much in two minutes, or you can do it in the 20 minutes. Yeah, for me set the intention like Well, you know what it’s like in a minute or In a couple of seconds, being in whatever environment or somebody or something can trigger trigger you, and you’re suddenly in this not so nice space, just as quick with sound, you can actually change it again, as you’ve learned. Yeah. Which is so exciting.

 

Bryn 

I was out for lunch at a work lunch not too long ago, and I was feeling a touch anxious about what was going on. And there was a nice dinner in the restaurant. 60 seconds of just that nobody could have heard. So, yeah, and then, I guess, from the sounding a few weeks back, I came to one of your sound retreat. Yeah, for a whole Saturday, where there were Was it 15 others 1617 1816. And, yeah, which sort of for me, culminated in a good hour of us all. Having Go. All these different beautiful sounds coming in at different times.

 

Christine Morrison 

And it’s that preparation energetically to feel. Okay about releasing your sound how ever sounds? Yeah, I find that normally people come and they haven’t done much sound and I thought, Okay, well, we’ll be doing some toning, we’ll be using our voices next and all of a sudden there’ll be people’s, you can feel them withdrawing, but yeah, it’s safe. It’s a vulnerable thing to allow your voice out. And once you start doing it, it’s empowering. really empowering not just for singing or toning or sounding it’s for speaking every day.

 

Bryn 

Yes, yeah, everyday life. Many people will have anxiety around public speaking. And probably speaking up and speaking out loud

 

Christine Morrison 

just speaking up in family. In small work things, it’s not necessarily in a big, big, you know, a lot of people speaking in front of a crowd anything. Yeah.

 

Bryn 

But yeah, and then I have to say at the end of that large session where they were all sounding together, and we all got we all got to sit quietly, I had this in credible state where I disappeared to a beach, which was not of this world. And I was walking at the beach, and there was a little child and I looked and it was little bread slide. Hey, and, and you know, we gave each other a hug and it was me, six, seven years old. Then all of a sudden, there was this very and for some of the listeners that might think of come from head of it, but there is this really why crystaline version of myself, which was like, like Bryn and he was coming in on the Hug and then also just as we’re about to have a big hug there was this voice from behind. And it was like, wait for me and I turned around and there was like this 75 year old version of me with wide and I could see me so I know what I look like now at the age of 7580. And he was like, he can’t start the hug without and there was just the four of us. I future brand past brand present red, light bread, all hug beautiful beige, clear as day crystal clear as day and stay here. And then as I was beginning to leave, they’re like, Don’t worry, we’re all here. Yeah. And you know that I’ve shared that with friends who have you know, explored with psychedelics and things like that, and they’re like, you were doing what? And I was like, I was sounding with the people for about an hour. It’s

 

Christine Morrison 

and this is what I love, because it’s You’re not the only person that have had experiences like that. That’s where I’m like, how do you how do I for me? It’s like how do I explain this? to people? Yeah, so you’re gonna have this surprise? Oh, yeah, not Yeah, I just for me, I have a sense of how I want people to feel when they leave. So to me, you know, I break it down with more. You know, how do I explain myself? Because you can’t say to people, you are going to come here and have this experience? Yes, I may not. Yes. And but it is very common. And, and how amazing is that when you have it with no expectation? Upstairs what I love, because I know what I do how I do it. I have a strong knowing. Yeah, I think I questioned myself all the time. Do I Do I really do this, and I have a very strong sense of responsibility about doing the right. You know the right thing for people but I do take it seriously because we’re working energetically here. We have to be responsible and not just think of, you know, I’m going to say we do this and, and it doesn’t actually happen. Yeah. So I came to the point of realisation that I hold this safe sacred space for people to empower themselves. Yeah. And I happen to do it through music and sound. And it’s almost like we all want this end result. And we know how we get there. We just, oh, I’m drawn to this. I’m drawn to that. So for me, I have this intention. And I’d like to share what I’ve learned with with what I know about sound. And I know however, I word my advertising. People are going to read that and they’re going to understand that vibration at a soul level. Yes, that’s what I’ve that’s what my knowing my intuition told me years ago, 20 something years ago when I first started doing this, because 20 something years ago, people you’d say sound healing. I had to even discover myself that it was called sound healing. And now I don’t want to even call it say Yeah

 

Bryn 

yeah every one of these don’t cease to be

 

Christine Morrison 

realised that what I do now and how I do it and everything that I do has really been developed through word of mouth and people just hear about it they know that calm or they asked about it. So I do my best to describe it. But one person who says they do sound hingley is not the same as the next person that does sound healings so yes, I work vibrationally and energetically and through sound it is like the alchemist hmm we you know we’re really producing gold you know, we come to our gold are in a gold in a liquid gold.

 

Bryn 

So it must have been an amazing journey for you to actually be able to sit here now comfortably in yourself and go Yeah, because there’s not there’s not a there’s not a what you’ve said sometimes you question itself but as you present it now. There’s not a flicker of like, Maybe, maybe not. Yeah. So it must have been a journey to get to this point.

 

Christine Morrison 

Yeah, it’s actually really nice to sit here because I know it works have been doing this for such a long time. And for me, I’m not here to muck anybody around and I’m not here for anyone to come in. Not be serious about it. Yeah, that’s my intention. I’m here to be with people that want to be part of the change that want to change themselves that want to do the work. People that want to take responsibility. I’m not here to do anything for anyone yet, or to say that I do anything for save anyone do their work. I went through that I used to feel like I want to help everybody and be the people pleaser. And yes, so years ago. I used to be a primary school teacher and music specialist, and it was 1996 and I was just really unwell became really unwell. Nobody knew But what’s wrong with me? And I was laid up in bed, and I didn’t realise I heard music all the time. I was I’m just born like it. Yeah, I came in with the gift of music. What do you mean you hear music all the time. Like, I was fortunate enough to grow up in Sorento, which was like a country area years ago. And soon as I hit the beach, I’ll just hear music and when I was little, I used to sing my heart out, especially when nobody was around. And it’s like this. There’s just music here. And, and I could quite easily sit there and just be in this musics just beautiful. And because there was a lot of bush around that time and Sorento so I would sit in the bush and hear the music of the tree or the plants or Yeah, it was just normal for me and I didn’t even know that I heard music. It was you know how you think you bodies the same. Yes. And I would I learned the piano from a young age of three. So, you know, got to be able to play the piano quite well when I was, you know, still in primary school psych, but to sit and play whatever on the piano, feel okay and go off again. So it wasn’t till I was completely stopped laid up in bed. Except there was only one pace that went over and over and over. It was beautiful. But I thought this is gonna drive me nuts. So something made me get up and played on the piano, which was quite hard because I was physically Yeah, he saw and as I started playing what I heard, it was this huge emotional release and I just cried and cried. And what it was to do with was all things that I just held

 

Bryn 

on to past traumas, little

 

Christine Morrison 

things, like people making fun of me. And I’m not gonna cry. I’m just,

 

Bryn 

yeah, I’ll follow those little micro traumas that you suppress and put down

 

Christine Morrison 

yeah Yes, so and that then I had to play it a few times. And then that stopped. And thank goodness for that. But then another piece started. And then another one and another one as I went along, and I wasn’t strong enough to play the piano. So I recorded a lot of it. And I would play it until that piece had done its work. And I’d released it. And then the next

 

Bryn 

slide, I hit play.

 

Christine Morrison 

And I just thought I was going crazy. I didn’t know it was the beginning of

 

Bryn 

you know, did you you say you thought you were going crazy? Was that like your conscious mind thought you’re going crazy. But there was another part of you that just went No, I just can’t keep doing this or keep doing this.

 

Christine Morrison 

Well then I felt like there was no choice because I needed this music to stop. The only way to stop it was to play it on the piano. As I was playing it on the piano. All these past memories were coming up to be released so many tears. I was gradually feeling better in my body as I was doing playing it. And I thought this isn’t right. Because I just knew what I had to do. And I knew that I knew how to do this music. And I was still in that mindset of you’ve got to go to university to learn something. You’ve got to, like, How do I know this stuff? Yeah, I knew exactly what to do. I knew how to play this

 

Bryn 

scary.

 

Christine Morrison 

Yes. Like, how do I know this? It was so familiar. Rather than being really excited about it. Yeah, totally freaked me out. I don’t know why, like now i’d be I’m so excited about it. Yeah. I don’t know why it was so scary. It was really scary. I thought I’m going crazy. Yeah, really going crazy.

 

Bryn 

Yeah, I imagine so because you’re on that boundary of this is not normal compared to what everybody says. Because

 

Christine Morrison 

I didn’t know anyone else that was doing well. Yeah.

 

Bryn 

And there’s and this sort of stuff won’t come up in normal conversation

 

Christine Morrison 

now. No, not at all.

 

Bryn 

So you healed yourself.

 

Christine Morrison 

Yeah, after a year, I was back to full energy. I was really, really lucky. I had a great doctor who really understood. He understood me more than I understood myself. And he was very much about not medicating me for because a lot of people thought could have been some kind of depression or, or different things. And he was like, No, no, let’s just because he knew he could see the difference in me. And let’s just keep going with this. So I feel very, very lucky. And after a year, I was back to full health. So I thought I’ll go back teaching. And then the day before I went to go back teaching, I had a car accident. So I had really bad whiplash injury or down my right side. Yeah, so I could only use my left hand and my left side I was sitting in my lounge room I remember thinking a year ago, I was in pain again now this is a different kind of pain. What is going on? And that’s when I had the biggest surrender. I didn’t know what surrender was. And it was this full on surrender where I was basically just giving everything over saying just show me how to how can I just get well again this is I don’t want to do do I just don’t want this I didn’t want any of it. And it was really hard to play the piano again and I couldn’t and this is when the voice has started the tightening and this will the sounding whichever you want to call it. Yeah. And and then that wouldn’t stop. But this is you starting

 

Bryn 

Yeah, tonight you’re

 

Christine Morrison 

hearing it and I was thinking I’m really going nuts. This time. I’m going nuts.

 

Bryn 

Yeah, but more than whiplash

 

Christine Morrison 

that I couldn’t take the strong painkillers because that was making We feel really sick and nauseous and dizzy. And it was worse than actually the chronic pain that I had. So I thought, well, let’s make the sound. So as I started, I had perfect pitch. So I thought, I’m hearing this a or whatever it was. I can sing that night. So I sang that night and amplified the pain. Yeah, and I thought, Oh, no, this is not good. But then I kept going because I had all the time in the world because I couldn’t do much and then as an amplified it that actually dissipated. The pain. sort of brought

 

Bryn 

it up.

 

Christine Morrison 

Yeah, it’s like bringing it up and out and then I realised I could actually move it around a bit. But how can you move pain around this is if I tell anyone This is crazy. Again, my doctor was really good. Same doctor, same doctor. Yeah. And so I was learning. It was like, in the learning it wasn’t then I realised I’m not learning this. I’m actually remembering because I knew I knew exactly what to do. I knew how to do it. And then I wanted to experiment with my kids and family because you know, who else do you experiment? Yeah. And the cat. Yeah, really interesting, really amazing result results. So and then the music did come in a bit when I could actually physically play the piano again. Yeah. So each year after that I had different the year after that I had a year of deaths. So and I just knew the music I had to play for people. Some knew that they were about to pass some words for the family, for grief. And it was actually for that person who had a sudden death as well. Right. And again, I was like, No, I don’t want to do this.

 

Bryn 

All the time. I don’t do this. To go back to being a primary school two

 

Christine Morrison 

years. Yeah. Yeah, no, this can’t be right. So when did you once made a mistake? It’s

 

Bryn 

Yes, please. I’m sorry. When did you finally surrender? Surrender to this then.

 

Christine Morrison 

I had a lot of surrenders. With the in that process of of the timing, just the year after that the year of the deaths where I could actually start getting in and playing some music. I was also starting to hear music. This is how the soul impression session started playing the piano. Because I started hearing music for people. And it wouldn’t leave me and I would see their face, right. I’m like, Nah, I’m not doing that one now, and then I couldn’t slay because it just the music kept going over and over. So I thought, okay, I’ll just record the music, then I’m sure that will stop. I don’t have to give it to them. But that didn’t happen. It wouldn’t stop until I’d actually given them the music. Wow. And it was in cassette. Way back when? Yeah, so I would almost well not almost I would apologise to them and say, I’ve got this music for you. I’m sorry, but I just really want to sleep. Can I just give it to you? Because my heart was just handing it over. Yeah. And but what amazing learning because they were all friends, obviously people I knew. Yeah. Then they played it and then the feedback, because I would I didn’t realise I was feeling everything that they were going to go through. Yes. And I was like, I don’t want to make people cry. I don’t want to bring up all this pain and suffering for them. But I was only feeling the initial things. I wasn’t seeing them at that end result. Yeah, they would come back to me. I’d look at them and think oh, my goodness, you know, they face that energetically. The whole vibration was different. And yeah, came back to thank me saying, This is what the music’s doing. Yeah, that’s when I realise this music. Is this vibration older? Oh, yeah. And I’ll maybe it’s okay. So now when people feel that emotion The tears for release online yes is so cool yet this is how it’s meant to be. So it was my learning that it’s okay you know I was still wanting to hold people together and say like it’s let’s keep you okay yeah now like just let yourself crumble it’s the shadow rings font This is how it’s meant to be but it was all my learning I just I just didn’t know that

 

Bryn 

hmm so that that crumbling is almost the crumbling of so it has been tearing up in previous podcasts strikes me is always the crumbling of that you know that that survival yeah so persona that we create at some point from a trauma input in the army in our past live so not past life but past part of our life. And then all of a sudden this just energy comes in and just crumbles it down yeah and and then reconnects you with This phrase I’m quite enjoying at the moment your inner indigenous part the real part of you yeah

 

Christine Morrison 

yeah that’s to me that’s your true authentic self and this this is what I focus on with workshops individual sessions let’s come back because to me I see you as this beautiful divine being of light your true authentic self and there’s just something here in the way yet you it’s not me you know remember how to to dissolve it and sometimes it feels like a shattering and you know, we go back to old got to pull myself together, hold myself together nine I let it fall on the ground. And you step out as this true authentic, Yeah, fine being like we’ve got everything. We don’t need it from anything or anyone. Just Know who will where to go to be in that space to do that.

 

Bryn 

And so it’s almost like the, the actual use of the sound is is just incredible. I won’t use the word technology at our disposal it is that we can use to do that. And so for me personally, what goes on here? My voice is just my perception of it. It’s just completely changed. That it’s not just a tool for me to blast sound is Yeah, what I’m saying? Yeah, but it’s actually a tool that does things within May. I mean, you know, just, we’ve all done it at some point, sat there and lost ourselves in our own humming. Mm hm. And then to actually just sit and listen and feel it in your chest or in your stomach. It does move things.

 

Christine Morrison 

Yeah. And when you become aware and you scan your body With that, you’ll notice it gets stronger or weaker in certain areas. And then if it gets weaker, I always say this. Have a focus on that area. Breathe into that. And, and then you notice that changes. It changes and then it gets stronger. Yes. Yeah, I love it.

 

Bryn 

Yeah. And you’ve also had quite a connection with indigenous people here with this as well. JOHN, tell us a bit about that.

 

Christine Morrison 

Yeah, again, they just it just happened. It’s my whole last whatever, whatever many years 20 something years. Things just, I never sat there and went, this is what I want to do next. Yeah. And people as they do come in and out. And I was really fortunate enough to meet some really amazing indigenous elders, from Perth who’s been very prominent in my life and she passed earlier this year. And another one He was a traditional custodian of all array. And again for about 20 something years in my life too and very much about we’re all one like their connection with the land.

 

Bryn 

Yes, we are

 

Christine Morrison 

the plants. The plants are us We are the animals like they are the family, they are a family, not just their blood family, our connection to the land, to the sun, to the moon, to everything and to take responsibility. And it’s all about love. Just be in that space of love.

 

Bryn 

Hmm. And what did they teach you specifically about? sound? I mean, how did they use sound and sound and music?

 

Christine Morrison 

Well, they, you know, they with the song lines, they, they, their their knowledge of, they hear it, they sing it, but they only sing it to the edge of their country and then it’s whoever’s in that next country knows they’re part of the song line and, and also The connection with they, some of them have shown me how, through this song, it’s song and dance and storytelling movements. That’s all the same the sound so they dances to celebrate certain things to bring different energies in to bring out you know their understanding and connection with nature and in a whole lot of things their connection with the stars like we just know this much about indigenous knowledge and much respect and honour needs to go to our yes people.

 

Bryn 

It strikes me that often the hubris of the you know, like their post enlightenment revolution ready type in a rational man that sort of got birthed in the 1700s and then looks down upon the, you know, the untamed and their, and their strange dances and rituals and symbols. Yeah. strikes me that that the, the rituals and dances and symbols of indigenous cultures are whilst they are simple and straightforward on one level a very have a lot of meaning and have a lot of power to them, where we now seem to have a particular amount of symbols and a ridiculous amount of rituals which just have nothing behind them. And so, I’ve been diving into the fact that we do have competing and almost like dark dark because they’re not got light on dark forces within us within deep within us. Ikki and that within it digitus coaches, they recognise that and bring it out through song, and dance and rituals like that. Whereas we just know, we’re just a rational man. Now, we don’t do that. We will put a blind, you know, blinkers off against all of that. And so hence we become so disconnected. And yet, something simple like sounding can just go and paste that.

 

Christine Morrison 

And it’s the connection like that, then how indigenous people know how to maintain the energy in their connection with Mother Earth. This is just phenomenal and their knowledge, like I said of the stars or just yeah, it’s quite amazing.

 

Bryn 

So is this for everybody? That’s a big question. What I do? Yeah, on one level,

 

Christine Morrison 

I don’t believe so I just I know how every single person would benefit. Yes. But it’s so easy to fall into that, oh, everybody needs to do this. Everybody. Everybody will benefit of this. Yeah, it’s like, this is me. This is what I do. And whoever’s to be if I’m to offer a group, then other people to come. You know, like I said before, I feel so many of us, like this is the end result how we all want to be if there is an end result, is there an interest? Yeah, this is how at this point we want to be and those that are to go in this way will come and do sound or, or whatever I do.

 

Bryn 

And those that don’t quite

 

Christine Morrison 

know, all the teachers and we’re all the students, you know, I really like to When I run my course I’ve often say I’m not the teacher. I’m just here to remind you I’m here to hold space for you to remember what you know. Yes, I share techniques. Yes, I

 

Bryn 

yeah. Share what jogged that memory a bit.

 

Christine Morrison 

Yeah. Yeah. It’s not like I like to sit here and you’ve got to remember the whole thing. Yeah, they’ve got a whole course booklet and everything with a whole lot of information in Yeah, it is about what do you know, it’s not, you know, there’s some wealth, we’ve got everything here that we need.

 

Bryn 

Hmm. So

 

Christine Morrison 

people are activated and through sound. And I’ve always felt like 20 years ago off, everybody just understood what sound was about. Yeah, our world would just be amazing. I could just say it I was being shown in all different things. But now I just know that whoever is to receive it or be in it will and it’s not for me to say you know, Can you imagine your to do this? You know?

 

Bryn 

Yeah, you’re sounding off.

 

 

Yes. So

 

Christine Morrison 

sometimes, you know, and I think my family, especially my mom is the best like, because I knew how much I could help her especially one time she broke both of her wrists. So, you know, could you imagine you can’t do anything? Yeah. And I just knew how much I could help her through my sound and and Clara senses and all that stuff, colour therapy, and she didn’t want any of it. And such a great learning. And I was like, Well, if I can get through this and the judgments from her and everything, yeah. You know, the world’s easy. Yeah. And just that feeling like we’re not here to hit, you know, the heal people. And just yourself. So she was just such a gift, absolute gift, and you’ve got to let people do things in their own time and you’re taking the gift that they’re going to get out of their healing journey.

 

Bryn 

Yes. You know,

 

Christine Morrison 

often you can see things we can all see things that people need and require before they see it just as ourselves

 

Bryn 

hundred percent. You know, that’s the biggest thing. I call it the closeness paradox. Because the closer you get, the more you can see what others may need. But the closer they get, the less likely they are to listen to you. Yeah.

 

Christine Morrison 

And who do you think you are? To be the one to say that to them? Exactly. So it’s like I’m here with us here to be in this space. So come together and see what happens.

 

Bryn 

And that was I have to say, that was one of the beautiful things about coming to that sound retreat Saturday A few weeks ago was that it was as simple as me. renuart going, Hey, I’ve been doing sounding on my own now for a little while, and it would be really fun to do it in a group. Ah, I’m doing a group in 10 days time. Would you like to come bread? Yeah, sure. And it struck me It struck me that you know, you put it out there, but it wasn’t like, I’m gonna blast this through Facebook ads. tising and funnels and shit like that is like, no, there you go. And then bang filled up

 

Christine Morrison 

and and that one in particular. I hardly did any advertising and I find has been happening a year or probably a bit more it’s like just this way of living living by I call it living by the way of the hat. Just being in like holding this energy of how I want to be and how, you know, whatever I’m doing as well. Yeah, so I thought okay, this is what I’d like to offer. This is how I’d like people to feel a what I would feel that they can get out of this. And I just held that space and sort of when I can everyone, I’m just doing a Facebook Insta post newsletter, whoever whoever’s to be there on that day. Okay, guys, yeah, let me know. And it booked out a week before us to run it. I thought this is the easiest have I’ve ever had anything rather than, you know, I’ve got to keep doing it. So every day or so. And just having that knowing that the right group will be there that that combination. And I always say that as a soul group, it’s like I say it so many times I get to a point and it’s just a split second flush through me of we’ve all been together. And we’ve all agreed that on this date, at this place, we’re all going to come together. Yes. To help each other. become whole again. And next step of becoming whole is Oh, he’s another one. And I’ve never had any bad groups. Never. Yeah, whatever you want to call bed. Yeah, yeah.

 

Bryn 

Awesome. What have you learned about yourself in this journey? Yeah.

 

Christine Morrison 

big surprises of who I actually am and who, you know, do I really want to have that in my personality or my way of being Yes. Oh no. Yes, some real interesting. Oh, I am actually like that and that comes back to taking responsibility and not blaming anyone. Yeah, that made me feel like this or they’ve done this to me. Yeah. Okay. Do I want to stay in this way or not? No. And to know now that I can just come, I can be in a certain state or emotion and just play it out on the piano or go to the beach, sing it out or sing it out at home. And in in a minute or two, I can totally shift my energy. Yes, I have learned a lot about myself a lot of that I don’t need to please people. I was a real people pleaser. I always wanted to fit in I loved being different. But I really wanted to fit in and it just the two didn’t go together with what I do. Yeah, because, and I’ve realised I just wanted to do something, you know, right? Not I want to do the right thing by everyone. And, and I’ve realised that there’s no path. Like a lot of us with what we’re doing. We are the way show is. There’s no path like we’re there with our machetes cutting the jungle the jungle now, now I see a golden pathway and I just follow the golden path. Yeah. I don’t feel like I’ve got this jungle with my machete and yeah, like those points, like, this is just too fucking hard. I don’t do this anymore. No, I understand the dummy. Like, I’m just not gonna do any of this anymore. Yeah. And now it’s like, let’s have fun. You know, I often say to some of the groups. I feel like I missed the memo that we’re actually meant to have fun. Yes, this is we’re meant to really enjoy ourselves with your eyes, the lies, the intensity of energy, whether it’s good or bad. You know, there’s the only you know this. You know, people can get into this light and love stuff and It’s also beautiful. And the only way to get where we are to be exactly who we are is to dive into your shit into the deep dark shadows of the parts of you that you don’t even want to acknowledge. And the only way forward is to dive into it. Yes. Look at it I in it. Okay, what are we going to do

 

Bryn 

right now? spiritual bypass? Do

 

Christine Morrison 

you want to know? Do you want to carry this baggage? Or do you want to dissolve it? So? And then you go through it? Wow. It just feels amazing. And you don’t know what courage you’ve got until you need it? Yes. So that’s to me. It’s like, then it’s so much fun. Yeah, it’s fun doing it. And but you’ve got to own it. Hmm. You got a guy on every part of you?

 

Bryn 

Yes.

 

Christine Morrison 

And often,

 

Bryn 

it’s wild and wacky to

 

Christine Morrison 

the outside. Yeah. And people often would say to me, oh, you must have such a peaceful life. I’ve had to come and live with me for a little bit and I think the result of my music being so peaceful and people can go to such beautiful places is because off dated that but I’ve often thought I have I been given these experiences I have I chosen these experiences to be able to create create this music or create such amazing peaceful music. So I’m just sitting in this you know all the music in my say days I’ve never done to share with anyone yet to me it’s it was always like baring my soul to the world like nobody’s gonna want to hear this. Yeah, but somehow I still don’t know how a lot of those CDs got out. I still don’t know cuz, but for me, it often comes to I just want to sleep like Alright, Alright, ready? Yeah, it was very painful, releasing it and then then I start getting Back of how it’s changed people’s lives, how it helps them get through whatever they’re going through in their life and all different things. And like people don’t know, I’ve got music for operations. And I just I just give that to people now. And I think knowing that I make a difference. IRR keep going. Yeah. And that’s if this is helping someone. Oh, yeah, I’ll go through that. Yeah. So um, yeah, it’s been amazing. I wouldn’t change anything. I wouldn’t want to go through it all again. I wouldn’t. I wouldn’t change anything. No, I just love now I have no idea what’s tomorrow the next day. I know different certain things that’s happening.

 

Bryn 

Yeah, that I’ve no,

 

Christine Morrison 

yeah, I’ve never been in a point where there’s so much I don’t know. But I’m totally fine with it.

 

Bryn 

Very comfortable, and you’re going to be

 

Christine Morrison 

outside to be in that wonderment rather than Am I gonna have enough money for this or that? Well, let’s say we’ll say, yeah.

 

Bryn 

One of the last questions I asked my guess, is a hypothetical question, but it’s always fun is if you could upload a question into the collective consciousness, so everybody had to sit still for seven to 10 minutes quietly and ponder it. What would it be?

 

Christine Morrison 

What’s it all about? What is all of this event?

 

Bryn 

Why did you choose that?

 

Christine Morrison 

Because that’s what I found. Sometimes I sit down, and I’ll go, what’s it all about? And I’ll play music and I get all these different answers. Okay. Yeah, what’s, what’s it all about? So much like a beginning, it probably is a few songs. Yeah. Yeah. What’s it all about? Bam. Love it. Is it nothing? Something? Is it something?

 

Bryn 

was just a laugh. It’s been absolute pleasure talking to you today. If people want to find you Where do they?

 

Christine Morrison 

My website is Christine morrison.com. Yeah. And I’m on Insta as well. Instagram and Facebook as Christine Morrison music to suit the soul.

 

Bryn 

Yep. Super

 

Christine Morrison 

and a new website is being developed being developed. We speak. Yes.

 

Bryn 

Excellent. Christine, thank you very much for your time.

 

Christine Morrison 

Thanks Bryn.

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